Disagree a lot with you, PS3 lineup blows away the 360 one by an absolute landslide

Well I disagree with you saying it blows it away. I think its about equal next year. Then again that's why everyone has an opinion, and I find it funny I think its even, and I'm called a fanboy for it. 

There is no small irony in this, given the 2(3?)-generation criticism that the only thing keeping Nintendo afloat was its own 1st party titles.

And while the future is looking brighter for Sony, let's not whitewash what they have done - they pissed away every penny made by the PS1 and PS2 over the previous decade, and ceded leadership of the market to their rivals. I don't know that Sony could have stopped the Wii, but they sure as hell could have kept MS from increasing their marketshare.

At this point the clock is winding down on this generation. Sony's 10 year plan is meaningless - when they lost their leadship position they also lost their ability to control the next generation. When the 360 launched, the "next gen" hadn't arrived because the PS2 was still going strong (and even 360 games were still being tailored to the PS2). Now, the "Next Gen" will begin when Nintendo says so, and they won't wait for Sony to gather strength.

I still think Sony has 2 years, 3 tops, before the next consoles arrive and render the PS3 meaningless. That's not nearly enough time to recapture the lead, and may not even be enough time to catch the 360. 

Unfortunately this years rationalization is more concocted then last years rationalization primarily due to the undeniable fact that this year the PS3 had greater advantages then it will have next year. When the console could not win at its very best. Then it is highly unlikely to win when the competition is at its very best.

Microsoft has and will have the superior price point, and more so will be affordable to a larger cross section of the public. Vastly more consumers can purchase a two hundred dollar console then a four hundred dollar console, and more to the point the 360 due to its varying model system has a robust second hand market.

Microsoft had a first party lull this year which is not going to repeat next year. Yes Microsoft had a great many third party exclusives, but that is not the same as internally developed titles, or second party exclusives. Already we have reason to believe there will be a plethora. At least one from Bungie, one from Lionhead, Four from Rare, one from Ensemble, and one from Mistwalker. That is some serious delivery on tap for next year, and it can go higher.

Microsoft likes to purchase third party exclusives. I find it hard to stomach how recently in these debates this little detail that was once a crime against humanity has somehow disappeared from the debate. We talk about price, because that is what the Sony zealots want. Right now for them it is all about the price. At one time it was money hatting, and now its predatory pricing. Whether you like it or not Microsoft does get more then its fair share of third party exclusives. That is not going to change next year. That was a major factor this year for Microsoft's success. Those third party exclusives they bankrolled paid out for them. Yes Microsoft is going to buy third party exclusives next year. Something Sony has been resistant to doing.

Finally Microsoft has both momentum and dominance. That imparts two advantages that the 360 has not enjoyed in this console war. They have always held dominance, but never did they hold both it and momentum. That puts pressure on Sony. When your selling even if you do not have the most consoles out you are given some leeway. When you are not selling, and you are in the third place position you will be treated by the retail chain accordingly. The PS3 was making headway on shelves this year, but if the 360 is doubling sales there is little doubt retailers will give greater love to the 360. Giving it more shelf space, and more special offers.

To keep it short and sweet the PS3 is worse off in the upcoming year then it was this year. In fact it has almost no advantage to draw upon outside of name recognition which isn't changing the situation now anyway. So how can the PS3 do better for being worse?

m$ doesn't have gran turismo or a first party line up like ps3 have 2009 yet.

they have only one more game in japan star ocean 4 which likely get ported.

i doubt it will sell mainly on multiplatforms. but the price may affect that.

sony got a alot better first party line up no matter how i try to look at it they just do, a price cut should have a bigger effect on the ps3 than 360 had this year.

For once, I think it's apparent that the PS3 has a bigger lineup for next year. KZ2, GoW3, FF13 and Versus 13 in Japan, Uncharted 2, the next R&C, Heavy Rain, LA Noire (it's made by Rockstar, it has to be good), inFamous, MAG, Twisted Metal, and of course Gran Turismo 5.

I agree, Sony is really stepping up its game next year.

Sony Fanboys always say:
Just wait...

"Wait until..."
"Next year its gonna..."
"The future looks good..."
"I CAN'T WAIT to..."

Big difference:
We enjoy the present.
You hope for something to change.


Last year, over the same period, the PS3Fanboys were saying: "Wait till 2008!! It will fuckin be year of the PS3!!! The game lineup is far superior from the competition! PS3 will rule all!"

Same thing year over year.
Get real.

Microsoft brings the goods each time. They don't need to unveil all their games 1 year early, unlike Sony.
Look at Gears2:
Unveiled in February 2008.
Released in November 2008.

It must be painful to be a Sony fan.
Always hoping for a brighter future.

Neoraf, who is saying the PS3 did not have a good year this year? It is possible to have 2 great years in a row, just ask the PS2. :D I never say "year of x" without thinking that is the case and fact of that matter is that MS has no answer to all those 09 PS3 exclusives.

I never said the PS3 didn't have a great year (gamewise).
The fact is, the Xbox360 and the Playstation3 both had a wonderful year (in terms of games).

However, the Xbox360 has two achievements this year (Awesome game releases + Commercial success and Momentum gain).

The PS3 is the loser of the year if we look closely.
2008 was a sad year for PS3Fanboys:

End of the Backward Compatibility on PS3
No DLC on GTA4
Tekken going multiplat
No DLC on Fallout3
Final Fantasy 13 going multiplat
Home is nowhere to be found in 2008 (supposed to be a 2006 launch app)
Weak Implementation of Trophies
Sony Playstation Division banking huge loss all over the year

...and I'm sure to forget some other sad 2008 events...
(Please help me if you find them)

Was it a great year for Sony?