I doubt this will be MS's last console.

others have said it before, "they will stick around at least as long as sony tries to take over our living rooms"

MS can bleed for a long time before they die... but I wouldn't mind that at all.

Cheer up man, the 360 is a great console.

I bet Halo 3 will have online co-op. Also Halo >>>>>> Haze even if Haze had 4 player co-op.

Though I wanna try and see what 4 player co-op in a shooter plays like. That Army of Two game's co-op is gonna kill the co-op in all other shooters from what I have seen so far.

I thought Bungie pretty much confirmed that there wouldn't be online co-op in Halo?

Edit: This is what I read: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/806/806090p1.html

It basically says that there's a rumor that in EGM next month someone from Bungie said online co-op might not happen at launch. So this is probably just a rumor and nothing more.... like MGS on 360. All just rumors.  

Sounds like gebx found the worst case scenario in each situation.

"IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE POW-WAH OF THE DARK SIDE!" 

 The current backlash at Microsoft for the 360 issue's is a real downer...  I don't see this happening anymore.

Microsoft has failed at everything - EVERYTHING - that they haven't been able to use their original monopoly on MS-DOS to leverage. Why should this be any different?

I see the 360 ending the generation at 40 million or so. I doubt they will abandon the console race if this is the case. People are also way overestimating the effect of the PS3 price drop... it happened 2 weeks ago, give sales time to settle back down to the normal level. The 360 isn't going to die.

Look long-term - not just "right now". If you pick any "instant" and extrapolate it to the entire generation, all sorts of wierd things happen (i.e. PS3 flopping harder than DC, and Sonylosing 90% of their marketshare).

As long as MS can fix the RRoD issue - permanently - they will be fine. But if we keep getting reports of it (and with new models), then they will self-destruct. Might as well dump the 360, move onto the next console - and make it work properly.

Sort of ironic, isn't it...

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MS - Dump old manufacturing system (from Xbox1), to maximise profits. Release as early as possible to get "first mover" advantage. Sell heaps, then collapse from hardware issues. End up costing them billion plus, in warranty / other issues.

Sony - Take a long, long time to get the hardware right. Launch at a very high price point. Start almost 10m units behind the 360, losing a lot of money per unit, and struggling to sell enough units @ competitive price (for company). Hardware is rock solid when it launches (though is still a pain to develop for). Costs them heaps of money in manufacturing/sales losses.

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I still think I'd rather be in MS's shoes. They can recover more easily, have solid software sales from established user base - and SDK/software for 360 is more advanced/established at any point in time.

If you post and say your avoiding this one... are you really avoiding it?

... or are you not inhaling?

*sigh* I see lots of people failed basic math.

1 data point tells you nothing.
2 data points gives you a line, but not a trend.
3 data points begins to reveal a pattern. Maybe.
A few dozen data points confirms the pattern.

I can't believe the number of people willing to write off the 360 after one bad week.