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leo-j said:
Soriku said:
mitsuhide said:
Soriku said:
mitsuhide said:
Soriku said:This my thread and no Sony fanboy is gonna tell me what to do!
Says the Nintendo fanboy.

 


 

Your predictions for PS3 in your sig is unrealistic. FACT.

 They are only unrealistic if the PS3 stays at $599 if it goes down to around $399-$450 it has a better chance and seeing that Europe love the PS3 and MUCH MCUH better games are coming out and the Wii will be stunted by low stock and the X360 will be tarnished when the RROD goes to court or it gets to the press and is reported in the main Newspapers and not just the internet which it already has been over here in the UK but only in one paper and it was a very small article and MS will have to deal with low stock from Halo3 probably selling through the roof and X360's going with them then the only choice will be PS3 and even more will buy it than would of.

Ok Christmas sales break down like this for PS3:

NA:1.5million to 2million during Holiday season.

Europe:1.5million to 2million

Japan:0.5million to 1million

Others:0.5million to 1million

That means in the Holidays alone it will sell at least 4million units that IS REALISTIC!!!


 

Won't happen.

1.5 - 2 million units in 2 months alone, really unlikely. If the 40gb is released then the chances go up from 20% to 60%, but I expect this durin the nov15-jan15:

North america: 0.75-1.75million

japan: 0.25-0.75million

others: 1.0-2.0million


Its happened before it could happen again.I think 2million in all 3 regions is abit low unless it keeps the $599 price and every dev on the planet stops developing for it,NEITHER of these thing will happen though. 



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

as happysquirrel said, even without the us price cut and xmas sales the ps3 should get over 5 million ww, [55k per week] the price cut should add an extra 5k a week at minimum, making it almost 5.5 mil just there. [still not counting xmas]
therefore an ABSOLUTE minimum for end of year is 6 million...i reckon it will be between 6.5 and 7.

of course the absolute min for Wii is 15 million, however if nintendo have been stockpiling, or have a contract to have more made for then, that means Wii absolute min is 16.5-17 million...which would be about my guess. and 10 mil over my guess for ps3.

mitsuhide your sig is clearly overestimating ps3 numbers and underestimating wii [if it wasnt for the bit about ''consoles working'' id say you were underestimating 360 also.]

conclusion; "middle-high 4 mill" is clearly bunk and very misinformed.



leo-j said:
blue3 is back...dude serisouly stop acting like an idiot your reading this killzone3.

you really are a retard if you want threads like this to go on.



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mitsuhide said:
Soriku said:
mitsuhide said:
Soriku said:This my thread and no Sony fanboy is gonna tell me what to do!
Says the Nintendo fanboy.

 


 

Your predictions for PS3 in your sig is unrealistic. FACT.

 They are only unrealistic if the PS3 stays at $599 if it goes down to around $399-$450 it has a better chance and seeing that Europe love the PS3 and MUCH MCUH better games are coming out and the Wii will be stunted by low stock and the X360 will be tarnished when the RROD goes to court or it gets to the press and is reported in the main Newspapers and not just the internet which it already has been over here in the UK but only in one paper and it was a very small article and MS will have to deal with low stock from Halo3 probably selling through the roof and X360's going with them then the only choice will be PS3 and even more will buy it than would of.

Ok Christmas sales break down like this for PS3:

NA:1.5million to 2million during Holiday season.

Europe:1.5million to 2million

Japan:0.5million to 1million

Others:0.5million to 1million

That means in the Holidays alone it will sell at least 4million units that IS REALISTIC!!!


I'm not sure your numbers are realistic.

The Week Ending October 28th 2006

Hardware:

Console Weekly Total
107,6877,387,323
75,54740,242,682
68,91038,019,959
66,2743,165,519
43,5625,801,974
9,98612,235,984
79315,920,885
Total 372,759

The Week Ending 30th December 2006:

Hardware:

Console Weekly Total
151,67710,120,363
147,74342,621,124
119,5875,083,263
94,76839,847,512
94,711746,653
94,6051,241,320
93,0577,261,535
20,44412,561,930
51115,930,893
Total 817,103

Meaning the holiday sales of the systems were (approximately)

  1. Nintendo DS - 2,733,040
  2. Playstation 2 - 2,378,442
  3. XBox 360 - 1,917,744
  4. Gameboy Advance - 1,827,553
  5. Playstation Portable - 1,459,561
  6. Nintendo Wii - 1,241,320
  7. Playstation 3 - 746,653
  8. Gamecube - 325,946
  9. XBox - 10,008

Now the question is 'How does the sales of the PS3 compare to the sales of these systems?' To answer that let's look at the begining of the year numbers

The Week ending December 31st 2005

Hardware:

Console Weekly Total
152,41537,216,703
123,81136,117,363
104,4834,389,453
103,5033,938,274
55,05511,704,288
43,064651,336
42,92715,476,904
Total 625,258

The number of systems sold in 2006 before the holiday rush:

  1. Playstation 2 - 3,025,979
  2. Nintendo DS - 2,997,870
  3. Xbox 360 - 2,514,183
  4. Gameboy Advance - 1,902,596
  5. Playstation Portable - 1,863,700
  6. Gamecube - 531,696
  7. XBox - 443,981

The PS3 has sold 877,705 which means that we should expect its pre-holiday sales to be lower than the PSP's 2006 Pre-holiday sales and its sales across the holiday season would probably be lower than the PSP's 2006 holiday sales.

Basically, 1.5 is where the upper limit on the PS3's holiday sales in America should be



I am taking into account that Nintendo probably hasnt stockpiled and the PS3 recieves good price cuts and has stockpiled which Sony have with the 3million 60GB's they have in warehouses.If the PS3 sold like it was 2weeks ago at around 20k a week in the US then i would have lower predictions BUT the "pricecut" came(if it can be called that) and E3 showing was stunning and i think that 43k a week wont continue but it wont go back to 20k a week it might be 30-35k a week so same as 360 and the 360 is on its 3rd christmas so people want either the PS3 or Wii and so if you take all games out and coming out the pricecut the possible 40GB at $399 and the start of 08 lineup it isnt has wild as you first think but i am resting alot on a good price cut for Christmas which is bound to happen because it would have been on the market a year and sony always lowers the price during the first year quite a big drop usually aswell atleast $100 so plus the fact that the 60GB is $499 and if they dont go out of stock before Christmas which they wont then Sony will lower the price of the 60GB and the 80GB and the 60GB will be $399 and the 80GB will be $499 and IF they release a 40GB they will put it at $299-350 which then it will sell so well it will be stupid but i dont think Sony would put 3 SKUs on the market there arent that stupid.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

Here is my expectation for PS3

PS3 Current Worldwide = 3.78 million

Americas - next 4 weeks - 120k

                8 following weeks - 180k* (Madden/Lair/Warhawk out, but $500 model is phased out)

                (GTA Releases) 4 following weeks* - 420k

                4 weeks of November - 480k

                4 weeks of December - 700k 

Japan - (20 weeks)(15,000)+ (3 weeks)(35,000) + (5 weeks)(100,000)

Europe = Americas (2/3) = 1.26 million**

PS3 LTD Sales = 7.85 million

* = These 12 weeks are the most critical for the PS3 in the Americas I think.  It will be very interesting to see if new IP can drive sales growth.  Madden will move some units, as will GTA, but both are available on 360, so I don't know exactly how many PS3s will be moved

** = PS3 has not had a Christmas season in Europe yet, so it is tough to determine how it will sell there over the holidays.

My range is 6.25 to 8.25 million by the end of the year.  Outside that range would surprise me.



People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.

When there are more laws, there are more criminals.

- Lao Tzu

To tell you the truth the two big games that are exclusive are probally Uncharted: Drakes Fortune and Unreal Tournament 3. Not counting other games like Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Liar, Warhawk, and many others. Plus those were just the exclusives.



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TheSource said:

Here is my expectation for PS3

PS3 Current Worldwide = 3.78 million

Americas - next 4 weeks - 120k

                8 following weeks - 180k* (Madden/Lair/Warhawk out, but $500 model is phased out)

                (GTA Releases) 4 following weeks* - 420k

                4 weeks of November - 480k

                4 weeks of December - 700k 

Japan - (20 weeks)(15,000)+ (3 weeks)(35,000) + (5 weeks)(100,000)

Europe = Americas (2/3) = 1.26 million**

PS3 LTD Sales = 7.85 million

* = These 12 weeks are the most critical for the PS3 in the Americas I think.  It will be very interesting to see if new IP can drive sales growth.  Madden will move some units, as will GTA, but both are available on 360, so I don't know exactly how many PS3s will be moved

** = PS3 has not had a Christmas season in Europe yet, so it is tough to determine how it will sell there over the holidays.

My range is 6.25 to 8.25 million by the end of the year.  Outside that range would surprise me.


I generally agree except I can't see GTA 4 really having that much of an impact on PS3 sales; I personally think that the lower cost and better line-up of the XBox 360 will mean that most of the hardware purchased for GTA 4 will be XBox 360 systems.