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Just reading those PC specs is making my head spin. Console gaming for me. No doubt about it!



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frybread said:

If Nintendo had tried to release a Cube360, I would have yawned and done without.  PC would have been more than enough. Am I alone on this?

I mean, 6th gen was boring enough with all the cinematic games, but console players seem to still be enamored with the FPS, a genre that has been well explored and done to death on PC.  Think about it, they're just now discovering online gaming with Halo 2 or Halo 3. Much like country music, they're 15 years behind the rest of the industry.  Online deathmatch? Doom, 1993.  Team based tactical gaming? Tribes, 1998.  It's an old, old genre.

From reading countless forums - especially VGC, one thing I've noticed about Wii gamers is that they're not new to gaming.  They're old pros, and the stats back this up (only 10% of owners are expanded market)  I also have another suspicion - Wii owners are likely to be PC gamers.  Am I right?

When you spend a big chunk of your time playing MMO's, or competitive FPS/RTS, it's a nice change to play Wii, especially with friends and family.  And as PC gamers we're not prone to buzzwords like "HD" since we played Dark Forces in HD back in 1995.  Also, Crysis kind of makes you jaded to any console attempts at realism.

We're exactly the kind of people Nintendo was targeting.  People growing older, getting tired of FMV-laden "cinematic" gaming, wishing for a new experience.  We're why Nintendo was predicting a downturn in gaming, and they had to do something to keep our interest.

Judging from sales of traditional consoles, Nintendo was right.

I'm on the opposite end.  If it weren't for the Wii, I'd own a Nintendo console this gen.

 



It's all about the game.

If you spend over $1,000 on a PC you either don't know what you're doing, or you're filthy rich.

Even that $700 Crysis PC is a little pricey.  If you want to play Multi-platform games from 360/PS3, you only need to spend $400 on a PC.  It's much cheaper than people realize.



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PC: 10^9
Wii: 10^8

dib8rman said:
@frybread

Amazing post guy, I was considering bringing that up in refference to LBP.

At first I didn't understand why people thought Little Big Planet would be huge, so I restudied to game, got into the beta and saw for myself. I can say safely that I wasn't impressed with anything except the graphics. (It looks pretty) I also like the narrator's voice and the music.

But the game it self granted a beta was not something special in any way. That's when it dawned on me, myself being a PC gamer for years now had been introduced to user generated content since 1997 and a game I played back then allowed you to even develop your own game of sorts, people created shooters, rpgs, action games all within this game. A Microsoft game I believe it was dungeon siege allowed for created maps that could be added to the over all. Warcraft 3 was by far the most impressive I rushed to be the first to make a over the shoulder 3rd person shooter on that, after playing the over head version, it took several weeks to perfect it but I had a playable version up in the mean while. In the end this kind of content didn't seem so amazing as I didn't notice it missing from console games at all.

Exactly, the first time I experienced user-created content was in 1994 - somebody had replaced all the demons in Doom with Barney.  Then I started making my own levels, recreated my highschool, perfected a deathmatch map, and downloaded thousands of others.

I can completely understand why console gamers are impressed with user-created content, high-res, and online gaming.  I would be too if I'd never experienced them, but all of us PC Gamers have for a looong time. We can still experience them too (COD4, Mass Effect, Bioshock, DMC IV, AC, GTA IV, FF XIII, etc.) so there's no big reason to own a 360/PS3, unless we want to play them with less detail and lower res for some reason.   

But Nintendo announcing a 1:1 movement sword fighting game?  I've never experienced that before.   Nobody has!  That's why we experienced gamers love Wii so much.

 



PC + Wii owners unite.  Our last-gen dying platforms have access to nearly every 90+ rated game this gen.  Building a PC that visually outperforms PS360 is cheap and easy.    Oct 7th 2010 predictions (made Dec 17th '08)
PC: 10^9
Wii: 10^8

Yea I was just talking to a friend about it, he's a LBP junkie and it seems in anecdote I'm correct, that he is impressed with LBP because this is his first experience with user created content. I wonder how things look on the big picture though. I hope the game does well though, but honestly my PS3 needs more RPG than it does LBP... but that's just me, I'm dieing for Eternal Sonata and well Folk Lore is Folk Bore when you start doing the girls story.



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dib8rman said:
@theprof00 so he trolled his own thread?

Also we did this before, go search for yourself it's on VGC, the video game industry shrank if you apply only the consoles (no handhelds) and exclude the GC and Wii respectively. Over the same period of time. =) I believe the number was either 22 or 9% there was a lot of stuff going on in that read so I forget.

 

No matter the number, that analysis holds no logical weight.  You have no idea of knowing how many Wii owners would've bought a different console had the Wii not been available.



The analysis was using a set period of time, the relation with them was the exclusion of Nintendo in the console form. The result is based on numbers, if I could justify anything it would be that Wii owners who intended to get a PS3 or a GC owner who intended to get a PS2 did get a PS2. I could chill out here and argue about values, but I can tell by the direction you spun this that you want to debunk something.

So here's some homework as sadly I a PC loving Wii owning gamer am on my PS3 typing this and can't copy paste urls and I don't have the source Bm'd here. The is a poll about the number of Console owners who own multiple consoles per console and which type they own the most. There was also an article here about which group the Wii is acquiring most of it's install base from 13% PS2 is the number I believe. My point is that there are many credible sources that have used closed studies to find just how is buying what. The results of each seem to support the prior stated points. But that's your homework not mine.. should you choose to accept it. Otherwise any arguement to further this would be in vein... until Wednesday when I have the free time to get the refferences.



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@OP: Very interesting thoughts, I'm a big PC gamer, though lately not having the money to upgrade like I want, plus I like this laptop that I'm using which is good for all the PC games that came out before 2006. But the Wii did revive my interest in console gaming as last gen was very poor compared to the excitement that N64 and PS1 brought. Last gen was the worst by far my time was spent on PC 60% of the time GC 30% and PS2 10% roughly by the way.

I did like a lot of GC games and some PS2 games but I was tired of the same types of games, it seemed like a trend started last gen where everyone has to copy each other when someone makes something successful and then DS came along and shattered that train of thought, and when that took off it seemed like new and interesting ideas was being done every month. Then Wii continues that train of thought which took off and while the launch had some interesting games, everyone will really see the true innovation in the coming year.



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Garamond said:
I'm just the guy that got a Wii because I liked Mario platformer games.

 

Same here, though Zelda was more important.

@OP: You certainly are generalizing.  I've been gaming for over 15 years, starting with the NES (which was sadly lost in Katrina), and I've been PC gaming for the last 8-10, and yet I fully enjoy what the ps3 has to offer. 

I love my Wii, but it doesn't have some amazing sway over me because of "teh innovation".  Hell, my two favorite games for the system have been last gen ports (Twilight Princess and Okami).  Thus far my four favorite games for the system, Twilight Princess, Okami, Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Bros. Brawl, have all used more traditional control schemes than most other Wii games.  Galaxy was quite innovative with it's gravity system, but that had nothing to do with the controls.

I enjoy innovation, and I love my Wii and DS, but there's nothing wrong with games that utilize traditional control methods, and there are plenty of old school, hardcore gamers such as myself that enjoy the ps3 and 360.

You also don't need a new control scheme to have innovation, as Super Mario Galaxy shows.  Hell, just look at Team ICO.  The different perspective that they bring to the gaming world has nothing to do with button layouts or motion controls.  And then there's the plethora of innovative PSN titles, like Echochrome and PixelJunk Eden.



1. I'm #1

2. FPS Kick every other Genre's ass

3. The only people who game on PC are nerds, unless its the Sims or Roller Coaster Tycoon