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Rath said:
Starcraft 2 will have FULL Multiplayer. I can't imagine why you even thought otherwise. And again, there aren't 3 versions of SC2, only one because the other two are expansions.


You don't seem to grasp that Blizzard has at least strongly implied that they are going to release each campaign as a different version of SCII - probably at full price and each with multiplayer. This is what everyone is reacting angrily to.

There is a possibility that this is just a PR fuckup and that there is only one SCII and two expansions but that isn't what their initial press release implied.

"[The second and third games] will be like expansion packs, but we really want them to feel like standalone products"

If there was a fuck up it was from Kotaku that wrote a misleading article.

 



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vlad321 said:
Ail said:
And there it is the bullshit reasonnings are back in strenght.

This stuff is too expansive for my taste but I'm used to getting everything I want so I'm going to pirate it...

I thought people on this site were becoming more mature, I was wrong...

 

This has the potential of being even more bullshit than the EA DRM crap. And yes, People are used to getting good games for cheap, so when bullshit like this happens people don't want to support bullshit behavior. Therefore they pirate it. Notice that Fallout 3 won't have the same shit DRM Spore had.

Fallout still got pirated before it got released so so much for the excuse about pirating because of BS DRM.............

If 3 campaigns sold separatly is too expensive, just don't play the game, easy...

Heck I hope Blizzard comes up with a crazy scheme that forces you to log online each time you play the game to curb piracy...

 

 

 



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Starcraft is my all time favorite RTS game and I'll buy any quality title as opposed to pirating. However, this new revelation means that I may not be purchasing Starcraft II, a thought that never even crossed my mind prior to this announcement. Even if each SKU is reasonably priced this still means that I may have to wait an additional period of time to play as the Zerg again which sucks. I find it illogical that Starcraft II is being divided into three SKU's based upon single-player content when the original was clearly focused on multi-player. This has cash grab written all over it and I won't be paying any price that seems unreasonable.



@Shio

Shio, i can't understand why you do defend Blizzard's actions to release Terran's "EPIC" campaign first and after that Zerg and Protoss.

Tell me couple good reasons why this is better compared to release it like SC1+expansion pack

@Ail

"Heck I hope Blizzard comes up with a crazy scheme that forces you to log online each time you play the game to curb piracy..."

Have been tried before by some companies, only Steam is working (is it ?), people have released some sort of fake server hack for this kind of "problem".

@bouzane

Agreed.


Most likely Terran "EPIC" campaign will cost 45-50 euros, those "EPIC" EXPANSION" packs for the same amount.



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What is the problem Warhammer Down of War did the same thing didn't it besides games that require much work should cost a little more anyways.



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@shio
It says it right there that they want them to be like standalone products. There really is no set price on expansions, so if the deem like the games are standalone products then they probably will charge for them accodringly.

@Ail
All games get pirated no matter what, whether it's earlier or not doesn't really matter. People who have decided to pirate it will wait anyways. It all depends on how many people actually download the pirated game. Like with SPORE, they were complaining about the DRM and lo and behold no more drm in their subsequent games. If people are discontent with Starcraft 2 and Blizzard really does pull the worst case scenario then I will even fully encourage people to pirate the games instead of buying them. Don't support bullshit business practices by buying their games, pirate to show discontent with the companies.

@bouzane
Agreed.



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bouzane said:
Starcraft is my all time favorite RTS game and I'll buy any quality title as opposed to pirating. However, this new revelation means that I may not be purchasing Starcraft II, a thought that never even crossed my mind prior to this announcement. Even if each SKU is reasonably priced this still means that I may have to wait an additional period of time to play as the Zerg again which sucks. I find it illogical that Starcraft II is being divided into three SKU's based upon single-player content when the original was clearly focused on multi-player. This has cash grab written all over it and I won't be paying any price that seems unreasonable.

Starcraft is your favorite RTS game, yet you are angry at Blizzard for doing the same thing they did with Starcraft 1?? So now you are opposed to expansions, but not when Broodwar came out?

Starcraft 2 is NOT being divided into 3 versions!!!! There is only ONE version of Starcraft 2, and the other two are EXPANSIONS!! Because of that each campaign will be BIGGER than ALL of SC1's campaigns combined!!

Punisher said:
@Shio

Shio, i can't understand why you do defend Blizzard's actions to release Terran's "EPIC" campaign first and after that Zerg and Protoss.

Tell me couple good reasons why this is better compared to release it like SC1+expansion pack

@bouzane

Agreed.


Most likely Terran "EPIC" campaign will cost 45-50 euros, those "EPIC" EXPANSION" packs for the same amount.

I support Blizzard's decision because I want Big Epic Masterpiece campaigns, and the only to get it is by doing the way Blizzard is doing now.

Remember Starcraft 1 and it's cliff hangerish ending? Well, with the way Blizzard is doing it won't happen, and they will have enough time to make it as awesome as possible. The fact that each SC2 campaign will be 3-to-4 times bigger than SC1 campaigns is also a plus.

An expansion has never cost more than 40 euros, so Blizzard will never make it cost more than that. If anything they could make it cheaper.

Duke Of Darkness said:
What is the problem Warhammer Down of War did the same thing didn't it besides games that require much work should cost a little more anyways.

Exactly! With the way Blizzard is doing the campaigns will be 3x-4x times bigger than originally intended, and I don't how some people think this is bad. Relic already did it with Dawn of War, and it's campaigns were far smaller than SC2 will be.

vlad321 said:
@shio
It says it right there that they want them to be like standalone products. There really is no set price on expansions, so if the deem like the games are standalone products then they probably will charge for them accodringly.

@Ail
All games get pirated no matter what, whether it's earlier or not doesn't really matter. People who have decided to pirate it will wait anyways. It all depends on how many people actually download the pirated game. Like with SPORE, they were complaining about the DRM and lo and behold no more drm in their subsequent games. If people are discontent with Starcraft 2 and Blizzard really does pull the worst case scenario then I will even fully encourage people to pirate the games instead of buying them. Don't support bullshit business practices by buying their games, pirate to show discontent with the companies.

@bouzane
Agreed.

You are officialy trolling. They said that they want their expansions to FEEL like full games, not be priced as one. Blizzard are already known to make the best expansions with the best value for money in the industry, and they never priced their expansions more than $40.

WC3: Frozen Throne was an expansion that felt like a full game, and was way better than 95% of the full games that came out that year. It also had the best story of that year.

 

 

 

 

 

 



@shio

Not everybody wants what you want. I don't want an "epic campaign" as nearly as much as I want to the option to play as the Zerg against my friends. If selling Starcraft II as three separate SKU's prevents me from playing as the Zerg online after the original release than this is hardly like the original Starcraft. Starcraft is popular as a multi-player game and dividing the content based upon the campaigns sounds bad to me. If all races are available for competitive multi-player from the outset then I will be satisfied, otherwise I will not.



bouzane said:
@shio

Not everybody wants what you want. I don't want an "epic campaign" as nearly as much as I want to the option to play as the Zerg against my friends. If selling Starcraft II as three separate SKU's prevents me from playing as the Zerg online after the original release than this is hardly like the original Starcraft. Starcraft is popular as a multi-player game and dividing the content based upon the campaigns sounds bad to me. If all races are available for competitive multi-player from the outset then I will be satisfied, otherwise I will not.

What the hell are you talking about? You CAN play as zerg in Starcraft 2, and protoss and terran. Why the hell did you think otherwise?! SC2 will have full multiplayer.

Did you seriously think that Blizzard would make such a stupid thing?? South Koreans would get insane and beat up the developers if that were to happen.

Source?



@shio

You just won't get it.

Like bouzane said:

"Even if each SKU is reasonably priced this still means that I may have to wait an additional period of time to play as the Zerg again which sucks."

I find it illogical that Starcraft II is being divided into three SKU's based upon single-player content when the original was clearly focused on multi-player. This has cash grab written all over it"

This is the reason why i also don't like this thing Blizzard is doing.

I want to play all those three factions out-of-the-box.

Not everyone is like you who only like playing Terrans and online.

"I support Blizzard's decision because I want Big Epic Masterpiece campaigns, and the only to get it is by doing the way Blizzard is doing now.

Remember Starcraft 1 and it's cliff hangerish ending? Well, with the way Blizzard is doing it won't happen, and they will have enough time to make it as awesome as possible. The fact that each SC2 campaign will be 3-to-4 times bigger than SC1 campaigns is also a plus."

How do you know that it will be "BIG Epic Masterpiece", not just same type of missions for every faction ? Have you already played all the factions in it ? (Even though game isn't even out yet)

"You are officialy trolling. They said that they want their expansions to FEEL like full games, not be priced as one. Blizzard are already known to make the best expansions with the best value for money in the industry, and they never priced their expansions more than $40."

Like vlad321 said:

"Wings of Liberty, the game's first campaign, will be shipping with a full and complete multiplayer suite with all three races available."

Good till that, but:

"The subsequent titles will add campaigns for the Zerg and Protoss races and both will carry additions for the multiplayer portion."

"will carry additions for the multiplayer portion"

Is what worries me. There won't be full multiplayer experience, if you only buy Terran campaign.

"While no price point has been set yet, Browder stated that if the follow-up games feel like full-featured games, they'll be priced accordingly. If they don't they'll probably be priced around the average expansion pack price."

"If the follow-up games feel like full-featured games, they'll be priced accordingly"

Yep, yep

"Whatever the price is, though, we want the fans to feel like they've gotten their money's worth."

In other words, we will mik you, like we have done with WoW. (Have they at any point lowered their monthly cost to play it ?)

http://www.destructoid.com/in-the-future-battle-net-will-cost-money-107378.phtml

They are just getting more greedy as days go by.

"WoW Game: $19.99
Burning Crusade Expansion: $30-40

1 Month - $14.99
3 Months (prepaid) - $13.99/month = $41.97
6 Months (prepaid) - $12.99/month = $77.94

Prepaid Game Card (60-days) - $29.99)"

So it's at least 12,99 dollars per month/per subscriber

Multiple that with 11 million per MONTH

They "only" make 1.714.680.000 dollars per year from subscriptions only

@shio

And how are they gonna interviewe/sum up the story if there will be only these two "EXPANSION" sets ?



Nothing's cheaper than something free.

F1 vs FOTA, when too much power is in couple peoples hands.

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