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outlawauron said:
500,000 * 60 = 30 million. Not every game costs 30 mil to make.

Gears for example cost under 15 million. Using the Unreal Engine 3 helped minimize costs. This is why everyone wants it.

That's 30 million in revenue that is split between retailers/developers/publishers. That's why the number is so high, because the revenue doesn't go straight back to the makers.

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Bodhesatva said:
leo-j said:
Ari_Gold said:
elprincipe said:

August 14 Lair

August 14 Madden 2008

August 21 GRAW 2

August 28 Warhawk

September 4 Heavenly Swofd


maybe its just me. but none of these ps3 games caught my interest. in my opinion they're rather weak. i dont think the ps3 is worth $499 yet. I'll wait for metal gear solid 4, then ill buy a ps3.

Wow, heavenly sword doesnt catch your attention thats a first.

 


It doesn't catch mine either.

I completely understand why some people aren't interested in some of the Wii games. That's fine, it's cool. But why is it that many PS3 seem to be unable to even fathom that some of us really, honestly don't care about Heavenly Sword/Lair etc? It's like you think I'm saying that because I'm a Wii fan and I just want to stick up for my console.

I honestly, genuinely have no interest. Seriously. For real. No joke. I know you're not the only one to behave this way, Leo -- I'm responding to your post specifically, but you're not the lone person who says things like: "Wow how can you not be interested in [random PS3 game]."

Here's a method that may help some of you understand: do you care about Zack and Wiki? Super Mario Galaxy? Wii Health? Wii Music? I bet in several of those cases, your answer is "no, of course not." Now, simply imagine I feel the same way, but about many of the PS3 games.

How could someone not care about Heavenly Sword? Or Warhawk? Or Lair? Answer: The same way you are able to not care about Wii Fit or Brain Age or Wii Sports.

Final note: I am not saying that you should believe like I do, Leo (or anyone). I'm not asking for you to like the same games I like, I'm just asking for you to accept that many of us really, genuinely aren't interested in many of the PS3 titles, and that we really, genuinely enjoy many of the Wii titles instead. We are not all sitting in secret envy of the PS3's greatness. 

 


Do you think that lair/warhawk/heavenly sword are really going to make a lot of difference for sony?  I just don't know.  In a way it is great that Sony is finally getting plenty of competitive games, but the triple combo that you mentioned was meant for sony to have something, anything, to offset Halo 3. Even if I am wrong about the particular titles.....sony is still wanting to offset HAlo 3 by offering 3 AAA titles!   



outlawauron said:
500,000 * 60 = 30 million. Not every game costs 30 mil to make.

Gears for example cost under 15 million. Using the Unreal Engine 3 helped minimize costs. This is why everyone wants it.

Every blu-ray disc costs a few dollars to make. The retailers take several dollars off that. There are shipping costs. Stocking costs. Some won't sell until the price is lowered (and thus you make less money). Some are defective and are never sold, which is effectively money down the drain. Some are stolen. Lastly, there is Sony's take for the game, which is about 9  dollars (Heavenly Sword is first party, so this doesn't qualify, but it does for all third party games). The actual take is considerably lower than 60 dollars per game.



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I really don't think Hevenly Sword will have problems selling 500k units at all. In fact, I think that it should be able to do that in the US alone. Also, keep in mind that all a dev really has to do is ship 500k units, which shouldn't really be that hard at all.



dallas said:
Bodhesatva said:
leo-j said:
Ari_Gold said:
elprincipe said:

August 14 Lair

August 14 Madden 2008

August 21 GRAW 2

August 28 Warhawk

September 4 Heavenly Swofd


maybe its just me. but none of these ps3 games caught my interest. in my opinion they're rather weak. i dont think the ps3 is worth $499 yet. I'll wait for metal gear solid 4, then ill buy a ps3.

Wow, heavenly sword doesnt catch your attention thats a first.

 


It doesn't catch mine either.

I completely understand why some people aren't interested in some of the Wii games. That's fine, it's cool. But why is it that many PS3 seem to be unable to even fathom that some of us really, honestly don't care about Heavenly Sword/Lair etc? It's like you think I'm saying that because I'm a Wii fan and I just want to stick up for my console.

I honestly, genuinely have no interest. Seriously. For real. No joke. I know you're not the only one to behave this way, Leo -- I'm responding to your post specifically, but you're not the lone person who says things like: "Wow how can you not be interested in [random PS3 game]."

Here's a method that may help some of you understand: do you care about Zack and Wiki? Super Mario Galaxy? Wii Health? Wii Music? I bet in several of those cases, your answer is "no, of course not." Now, simply imagine I feel the same way, but about many of the PS3 games.

How could someone not care about Heavenly Sword? Or Warhawk? Or Lair? Answer: The same way you are able to not care about Wii Fit or Brain Age or Wii Sports.

Final note: I am not saying that you should believe like I do, Leo (or anyone). I'm not asking for you to like the same games I like, I'm just asking for you to accept that many of us really, genuinely aren't interested in many of the PS3 titles, and that we really, genuinely enjoy many of the Wii titles instead. We are not all sitting in secret envy of the PS3's greatness.

 


Do you think that lair/warhawk/heavenly sword are really going to make a lot of difference for sony? I just don't know. In a way it is great that Sony is finally getting plenty of competitive games, but the triple combo that you mentioned was meant for sony to have something, anything, to offset Halo 3. Even if I am wrong about the particular titles.....sony is still wanting to offset HAlo 3 by offering 3 AAA titles!


I agree, but I don't think it's because of the quality of the games: new IPs have to be phenomally good and get phenomenally lucky to really put a dent in a monster franchise like Halo. It happens, of course -- Halo was a new franchise at one point, after all -- but it's quite rare and its quite unlikely. We'll see! 



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the $60 that every game is sold splits into advertising, production, development, and a few other things. Only like $8 goes to the main company.



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First of all, I assume that this current promotion of the 60g model will last at least until august. When the actual levels of this console get to low enough levels, I expect sony to cut the price of the 80g model in a similar way after sales of the 60g model die down to low low levels.

I also expect that next week's sales will be a little bit lower, due to the fact that console price cuts always seem to invoke a very strong immediate response, with a somewhat weaker, but still better than "normal" level of sales, which will probably be in the high 30K's. Keep in mind that the 360 is about to get its own price cut, so that will actually decrease the PS3's sales by a bit just as the current PS3 price cut is decreasing the 360's sales by a fair bit, so I am bringing that number down from the low 40K range to something that sounds more conservative, in the low 30K range.

After the next week, I expect sales to settle again down to about 30K-35K util the 60g model is hard to find, and when the 80g model has its own sale, I expect a similar level of sales, that is until november when the holidays start pushing up sales like crazy.



Since weekly numbers are way to unreliable. I'll go with monthly but that really depends on what July numbers are.

Aug should match July numbers, $499 all month not half of it. After that sales probably increase each month due to constant software and its marketing. As long as $499 Ps3 stock remains sales will climb.

Ps3 is set for a huge ass October

Folklore
HSG5
Ratchet and Clank
Home
GTA4
CoD4 Moder warfare
Need for Speer pro street.

any one wanna bet that PS3 will surpass 400k sold in USA in october ?



leo-j said:
Bodhesatva said:
leo-j said:
Ari_Gold said:
elprincipe said:

August 14 Lair

August 14 Madden 2008

August 21 GRAW 2

August 28 Warhawk

September 4 Heavenly Swofd


maybe its just me. but none of these ps3 games caught my interest. in my opinion they're rather weak. i dont think the ps3 is worth $499 yet. I'll wait for metal gear solid 4, then ill buy a ps3.

Wow, heavenly sword doesnt catch your attention thats a first.

 


It doesn't catch mine either.

I completely understand why some people aren't interested in some of the Wii games. That's fine, it's cool. But why is it that many PS3 seem to be unable to even fathom that some of us really, honestly don't care about Heavenly Sword/Lair etc? It's like you think I'm saying that because I'm a Wii fan and I just want to stick up for my console.

I honestly, genuinely have no interest. Seriously. For real. No joke. I know you're not the only one to behave this way, Leo -- I'm responding to your post specifically, but you're not the lone person who says things like: "Wow how can you not be interested in [random PS3 game]."

Here's a method that may help some of you understand: do you care about Zack and Wiki? Super Mario Galaxy? Wii Health? Wii Music? I bet in several of those cases, your answer is "no, of course not." Now, simply imagine I feel the same way, but about many of the PS3 games.

How could someone not care about Heavenly Sword? Or Warhawk? Or Lair? Answer: The same way you are able to not care about Wii Fit or Brain Age or Wii Sports.

Final note: I am not saying that you should believe like I do, Leo (or anyone). I'm not asking for you to like the same games I like, I'm just asking for you to accept that many of us really, genuinely aren't interested in many of the PS3 titles, and that we really, genuinely enjoy many of the Wii titles instead. We are not all sitting in secret envy of the PS3's greatness.

 


Behaving it what manner? It just seems that most people that I know seem interested in heavenly sword, I didnt say How can someone not care about heavenly sword, I just said how can it no catch your attention, Wii sports is an awsome game that I have played, and why wouldnt I be interested in mario galaxy if sunshine was my favorite mario game? Wii fit would catch most people's attention as well as heavenly sword, but I am just a kid, how can you expect me to behave in such a mature manner as you do yourself sir?


Leo, please note that I was only using your post as an example, and that I wasn't only replying specifically and entirely to you. The general point is: I hope that PS3 fans can understand that some of us out there simply do not care about many of these PS3 exclusives (I think Little Big Planet and Afrika look really cool, and I think Home is a great idea, though). 

You expressed amazement that Heavenly Sword doesn't catch someone's attention. I'm trying to explain why this shouldn't amaze you, and that there are lots of people who honestly don't care about lots of games. I think you've become a much cooler poster recently, Leo, so I wasn't trying to jab you too hard. It was a general response to many posts, and your post happened to be the specific one I quoted. 



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Celb said:
Since weekly numbers are way to unreliable. I'll go with monthly but that really depends on what July numbers are.

Aug should match July numbers, $499 all month not half of it. After that sales probably increase each month due to constant software and its marketing. As long as $499 Ps3 stock remains sales will climb.

Ps3 is set for a huge ass October

Folklore
HSG5
Ratchet and Clank
Home
GTA4
CoD4 Moder warfare
Need for Speer pro street.

any one wanna bet that PS3 will surpass 400k sold in USA in october ?

I will take that bet. I bet the PS3 will not sell more than 400k units in October.

 



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