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2009 release?? Not bad. This game looks interesting. Can't wait to hear more of it ^_^



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ookaze said:
Torillian said:
WRPG's are western made RPG's that usually revolve around the ability to customize your character, having alot of choice in how you play the game, and sidequests.

JRPG's are Eastern made RPG's that have a given main story that you have to follow to play through the game, rarely have customizable characters, and sidequests are minimal. 


What?

JRPG have tons of sidequests. Just because you don't do them doesn't mean they don't have sidequests.

I complete every JRPG I make, and most if not all have sidequests, sometimes they are even bigger than the main story.

Other differences between JRPG and WRPG are that WRPG are heavy on the munchkin way and gritty graphics.

Stories in WRPG are poor because of the customization of your character. There are so many possibilities that the developers have to reduce the story to basic things. Both WRPG and JRPG are radically different take on the true tabletop RPG.

The munchkin way and gritty graphics stuff is nonsense, but the bolded is true.

The further you stray from a well-defined character and the more story branches you create, the more you must accomodate player decision-making and in ways sacrifice for it.  If you have 100 hours to devote to a main quest that has no branches, you have 100 hours on that quest.  If you split the quest into a good/evil branch, suddenly you have maybe 25 hours per branch (with 50 hours common to both of them).  The more elaborate you make the pieces and the more decisions you give the player the less you can do overall.  If you ever take apart the dialog files for BG2, Fallout, or Arcanum you'll see that the actual scripts are simply staggering in size and the dialog trees get to be pretty insane for even what seems like simple things.

The idea that a WRPG is more customizable than a JRPG is true... to a point.  JRPGs are, in many ways, becoming more customizable as time passes.  Considering we started out with games like Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior as "classic" JRPGS, I'd say we've come a long way.  It seems like there's a middle ground that companies are looking for.  Final Fantasy I where you have one class and that's all you do is good for some but not so much for others.  Meanwhile, Final Fantasy VII where character differences were almost negligible and materia/items made up most all the customization worked for some but not others.  In my experience, people want a reason to use all the characters so too generic is bad yet they also want to use their favorites (so customization is good).  Hopefully we'll see a better merging of these desires in the future.



Finally, some decent rpg are coming for ps3.



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looks like it could be fun



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Apparently it's being made by the team that made King's Field.

Sony are publishing AND Producing the game, and apparently the Sony producer really like King's Field (though he had his criticisms) and the director of the King's Field basically considers this game to be the "new" King's Field, and he's working heavily with the producer to make it the best game he can.

Some stuff from NeoGAF:

There are two people being interviewed. The Sony producer and the From Software director. It's the producer who is a fan of King's Field, so he asked the director when they (From) will be making another RPG.


Some more info:
- They are calling it "strategic action RPG". It's not going to be about the player's reflexes - they say you can't down an enemy by just swinging a weapon at it repeatedly. It will require thinking and strategy.

- They treat it as "the new" King's Field.

- The Sony producer being a fan of King's Field, also had a list of criticisms for it and voiced them. Director is pleased with having different feedback outside of From's walls.

- User created avatar - choose hair, eyes, face, etc.

- As an example of game design, they pointed out that it's ridiculous that you can find treasure chests just sitting around. So now treasures are only found from the remains of fallen adventurers.



thanks MM, I feel alot better about the game's prospects knowing that the developers have some experience in this genre already. good to hear.



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I know nothing about King's field. Is it good, bad, meh?



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The_vagabond7 said:
I know nothing about King's field. Is it good, bad, meh?

I have no idea, to be honest.  I just mentioned it because the producer from Sony apparently really likes it, and it shows that this is NOT the team that made Enchanted Arms, lol.

Tbh, if it wasn't for Sony producing the game, I would have very little interest in the title at all, given From Software's pedigree. 

I hope the demos at TGS turn out well.



- They are calling it "strategic action RPG". It's not going to be about the player's reflexes - they say you can't down an enemy by just swinging a weapon at it repeatedly. It will require thinking and strategy.

that sounds very good
 
- They treat it as "the new" King's Field.

- The Sony producer being a fan of King's Field, also had a list of criticisms for it and voiced them. Director is pleased with having different feedback outside of From's walls

no idea how King's Field was tbh

- User created avatar - choose hair, eyes, face, etc.

- As an example of game design, they pointed out that it's ridiculous that you can find treasure chests just sitting around. So now treasures are only found from the remains of fallen adventurers.

I like that system

 

@ MM )

thanks for these very nice infos, I was a bit concerned whether or not From Software are able to handle such a project aswell, good to know it's in Sonys hands after all