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I was a PC gamer over consoles with my youth (i had both but played more on the PC) now i cant afford one so it's consoles all the way, unless its Football manager ;)



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i will stick to consoles.

vista is a hog, i don't feel like updating my hardware every 3 years.
and knowing how lazy are pc developers, they get even lazier.

my pc can't run assasin creed, but my ps3 just nicely.



Still waiting for those people who said PC gaming is too expensive to acknowledge my post.



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In the context of this thread "PC gaming is too expensive" doesn't really fit because it's about smaller indie developers and games that aren't Crysis.



BenKenobi88 said:

Let's talk about OMG EXPENSIVE PC gaming:

I'm not going to lie: You will need to upgrade your PC every couple years...sometimes just a video card or some memory...after a few years you might just need to build a whole new one.

It ain't no $2000 or even $1000 though. On hardware alone, I probably spend an average of $350 per year. That's a $500 whole computer last year, and a $200 upgrade for the video card and a shiny new case (not a necessary upgrade mind you) this year. Next year, I'll probably get a new video card, maybe for around $200. Who knows. Then the year after that I'll probably have to drop $500 on a bunch of new parts since my processor will be holding me back.

$350 for hardware per year, $30 average price for a PC game (I wait for price drops, and they're FAST), 12 games a year...that's $360 + $350 = $710 a year on PC gaming.

$300 for initial 360 let's say, 12 games a year at let's say $40, and I'm totally being fair, because a lot of games stick to $60 or $50...no exaggeration...console games really cost more. That's $780 for the first year, over $800 with XBL gold. The second year it's going to be $480 for just games.

So using that quick, simplified run-through, PC gamers pay over $700 a year on gaming, console gamers pay under $500 a year on gaming.

OH TEH NOES IS SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE!  I CAN NOTS AFFORD

And yes I know it's more expensive in some countries...a majority of people here are in NA though, and it's very affordable here, and I assume decent in Europe.

 

Or what about if you have a Wii? $250 for initial contest plus 12 games, since you put $40 for 360 games i will say $30 for Wii games, which is only $610 for first year and $360 a year after that, half the cost of PC gaming, paying $360 more for a PC each year is not something to sneeze at, it is expensive for a lot of people who could be spending that money elsewhere (thats 2 quarters of books for me).

 

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I think this article is BS personally.

Game quality is very important to me, and other than RTS's, and various FPS's, the PC has nothing i'm interested in. I probably play console games 5-10 times more than PC games, plus i get to use my big 46" TV and surround sound system sitting in my cozy chair when i play console ga,es. I suppose you could hook up your PC to your TV and surround sound system, but it's annoying and you have the added hassle of the keyboard and mouse. IMO the mouse (not the keyboard) is good for two things, RTS's, and FPS's, the keyboard is a hindrance and makes games less immersive, plus it's uncomfortable.

Consoles are also more user friendly and easy to use. With a console you just boot up the system and in a few seconds you are playing a game.

PC does have it's gems, i play any good PC game that comes out and try to keep my rig updated as much as possible so i can play the latest stuff, but seriously, console gaming just blows PC gaming out of the water. As far as quality and quantity is concenred, it's no contest, consoles win.



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ph4nt said:
BenKenobi88 said:

 

Or what about if you have a Wii? $250 for initial contest plus 12 games, since you put $40 for 360 games i will say $30 for Wii games, which is only $610 for first year and $360 a year after that, half the cost of PC gaming, paying $360 more for a PC each year is not something to sneeze at, it is expensive for a lot of people who could be spending that money elsewhere (thats 2 quarters of books for me).

I know the Wii is quite a bit cheaper...it's usually PS3 and 360 people talking about how their console is better than the PC though...the Wii and PC are on quite different levels just like Wii and PS360.



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Anyone who says "PC is more expensive and you cant run X and Y games on PC without spending 400$ on it"

Guess what i can apply the same to Consoles!

Why cant i play Gears of war on xbox1,why cant i play resistance on PS2????????????

Oh let me address the hole lots of $$$ to play the best PC games,Once again the same can be applied to console games,My PC which is a old dell with 1 gig of ram and a single core processor can run Crysis fine on low/medium.

Dont say it cost $$$ of money to enjoy this game,applied to console,You basically need a hard drive to get map packs and stuff for consoles...

Also PC > Console why Mods!!! Mods = increase life of games,Mods like Project Reality and Forgotten hope,Consoles are for casuals who want to pick up and play PC games take intelligence.



Garnett said:

Consoles are for casuals who want to pick up and play PC games take intelligence.

You pretty much disproved that statement by merely making it.

 



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I must agree with article. Consoles are way too commercial/restricted and way too costly to develope anything. Next gen will cost even more as consoles will be more complicated and so will programs. Eventually you have to do the same thing as with PC and do not care about low level optimizing, because it will cost way too much.

@Cost of PC gaming

I have average ~600€ PC(About $400-500, if you would have bought it from somewhere in US. After all for example PS3 still costs here 460€.), which is nearly three years old and there haven't been any games that would have not run on this computer. When there will be game that will not run on this computer, I could just buy new GPU and it will run games again with ease few years(However I need computer with more than 2 cores so it will be about 400-500€ when I will upgrade my PC again. I think it will happen next year maybe. So its about 4 years cycle. :) ).



I would rather have a console I can spend $250 on and have it run all games for it perfectly for 7+ years, be comfortable playing it in a nice living room chair of bed, and have a half assed $300 Computer for 5 years that I can surf the web with (maybe not play new games on, but the discount ones play fine) and use as a multimedia hub.

Home PC's are essentially inefficient to run games on, they have to run an OS, Virus scan, other assorted background tasks, and on top of that a game on a processor not optimized for gameplay.



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