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>>My first thought was that you obviously haven't played Viva Pinata otherwise you'd know it wasn't hyped

@PS3owner:

>>Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me.

PS3owner said: Nothing can stop Halo3, besides GTA4 but thats another story. One of the major reasons that the wii is selling so well is the price. All the games on the system are so far behind what the PS3/360 are doing it is insane, not just the graphics but the sound aswell. I know alot of you guys are going to say that graphics don't matter and all that stuff but they do. From what i've seen so far the wii can not even match the graphics of first year GC titles, let alone what the xbox had. Now MP will sell alot because of the great GC game they made, and the lack of similar games on the wii already. Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me.

 The buttons on the PS2 controllers scare away the little grannies.

montrealsoon said: @PS3owner: >>Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me.<< Try the Wii controller.

This, and the PS2 is yesterday.  The Wii is what's hot today, it's what people are talking about.  Gamers, especially casual ones, don't buy consoles to play games that are several years old, they want to play the hot new games.

For that matter, why would anyone buy a PS3 over a PS2?  It's what, 1/4 the price and has 1000+ games for it. 

PS3owner said: Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me.

Because the Wii is new, interesting, innovative, reliable and shows promise. The PS2 is old, lacking reliability, at the end of its run and the PS3, it successor and future's sake, shows relatively little promise.

This frustration you're expressing is indicative of an inability to understand more complex social and market trends in gaming. People like you yourself seem to latch onto one simple concept of appeal and run with it as if it's the sole deciding factor. For example, people who can't fathom graphics not being the most important factor in gaming this generation. People who can't fathom HD not being a mandatory requirement for everything this early inits standardizaiton. People who can't fathom why their opinion isn't the popular one this generation. It's short sighted and naive logic really.

The Wii-mote is ideal, it is popular and it is selling the Wii like hotcakes. You can either ask if there is something wrong with everyone else, or if there is just something wrong with you.

Gballzack said: montrealsoon said: @PS3owner: >>Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me.<< Try the Wii controller. Because the Wii is new, interesting, innovative, reliable and shows promise. The PS2 is old, lacking reliability, at the end of its run and the PS3, it successor and future's sake, shows relatively little promise. This frustration you're expressing is indicative of an inability to understand more complex social and market trends in gaming. People like you yourself seem to latch onto one simple concept of appeal and run with it as if it's the sole deciding factor. For example, people who can't fathom graphics not being the most important factor in gaming this generation. People who can't fathom HD not being a requirement in this early stage of its standardizaiton. People who can't fathom why you wouldn't want the system with the most games irregardless quality or age. People who can't fathom why their opinion isn't the popular one this generation. It's short sighted and naive logic really. The Wii-mote is ideal, it is popular and it is selling the Wii like hotcakes. You can either ask if there is something wrong with everyone else, or if there is just something wrong with you.

Nothing wrong with him or anybody else, I find a healthy balance of both to be very fufilling this generation. The new controll is a refreshing breath of air, but I still turn on my 360 just as much to gasp at some of the graphics. The true "zen" if you will is in the balance of both worlds and we can easily get that this generation. I do agree though the market tends to go to the hot buzz. wii is hot, Ps2 is yesterday wether we like it or not. Right now, sadly, Wii's sharing a lot of PS2 games because developers wrote it off initially and then when the Wii exploded they tried to rush projects out for it. It explains the tacky 1st gen games by and large. It'll pick up quite a bit I'm positive of it, just give all those slow developers time. As far as killing Halo3, no it won't happen but if it's as nice in the control scheme as I'm hearing and then factor in Halo 3 beta underwhelmed a lot of people(Multiplayer always has lower graphics) it could potentially draw attention away from Halo 3. On the other hand the Halo 3 beta being lower quality then single player, the single player trailers may impress and bring MORE attention to Halo 3. It's anybodies guess at this point..

 

Now what really would have helped Metroid Prime 3 would have been the inclusion of free online play, it would have easily drawn on those that like halo but don't want to pay for Xboxlive, I'm sure there's at least a few dissapointed by the need to pay for play. Sadly this is not the case though.

 

Gballzack said: PS3owner said: Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me. Because the Wii is new, interesting, innovative, reliable and shows promise. The PS2 is old, lacking reliability, at the end of its run and the PS3, it successor and future's sake, shows relatively little promise. This frustration you're expressing is indicative of an inability to understand more complex social and market trends in gaming. People like you yourself seem to latch onto one simple concept of appeal and run with it as if it's the sole deciding factor. For example, people who can't fathom graphics not being the most important factor in gaming this generation. People who can't fathom HD not being a mandatory requirement for everything this early inits standardizaiton. People who can't fathom why their opinion isn't the popular one this generation. It's short sighted and naive logic really. The Wii-mote is ideal, it is popular and it is selling the Wii like hotcakes. You can either ask if there is something wrong with everyone else, or if there is just something wrong with you.

 You go girl :D, awesome said

Adding my own two cents but repeating what a few have already said:

1. Halo and Metroid are two very different games. In fact, it may have been a great idea to leave on-line play out of Metroid to further reduce the comparisons of the two titles. (There's no way Nintendo could have created an on-line multiplayer system anywhere near as robust at Halo's in the time given and with the current infrastructure they have.)

2. Hopefully Metroid will show developers how to correctly implement the Wiimote in FPS style games. Hopefully gamers find it as good as or better than dual analogue. (Some will balk without ever trying it.)

3. Metroid isn't the end all be all game this generation. Super Smash Brothers and Mario Galaxy are much more important and will sell more than Metroid will ever hope to.

In ways Metroid is supposed to be a counter for Halo, but only as far as it is supposed to appeal to a very similar demographic (western male core-gamers) and it is not supposed to be a very similar game. The gameplay mechanics of Metroid are a combination of First Person Shooter elements (like Halo) and Adventure elements (like Zelda) and unlike most games Metroid is meant to be a much more introverted/isolated self-motivated game. 

As far as countering Microsoft in USA, I'm not sure any game in particular is really all that important for Nintendo. In the first 6 months of 2007 the Wii has outsold the XBox 360 by (on average) 35,000 units per week and almost a million units total. Without considering holiday sales boosts, if sales continue at this pace the Wii will outsell the XBox 360 in North America sometime in late 2008; the Holiday season adds the potential for the Wii to sell 1 to 2 Million units more than the XBox 360 in 2 months (an unlikely situation but it is a possibility) which would mean that the Wii could pass the XBox 360 in early 2008.

Personally, I would say the real question is whether Grand Theft Auto 4 and Halo will provide enough of a boost for Microsoft to maintain their lead? 

Gballzack said: PS3owner said: Plus i'm still not really understanding why people are buying the wii, it just blows my mind that people would not just buy a PS2 over the wii, it's half the price and has 1000+ games for it. Can someone please explain this too me. Because the Wii is new, interesting, innovative, reliable and shows promise. The PS2 is old, lacking reliability, at the end of its run and the PS3, it successor and future's sake, shows relatively little promise. This frustration you're expressing is indicative of an inability to understand more complex social and market trends in gaming. People like you yourself seem to latch onto one simple concept of appeal and run with it as if it's the sole deciding factor. For example, people who can't fathom graphics not being the most important factor in gaming this generation. People who can't fathom HD not being a mandatory requirement for everything this early inits standardizaiton. People who can't fathom why their opinion isn't the popular one this generation. It's short sighted and naive logic really. The Wii-mote is ideal, it is popular and it is selling the Wii like hotcakes. You can either ask if there is something wrong with everyone else, or if there is just something wrong with you.

 good work girl, I can't write it better myself. My hat off for you (if I owned a hat).

 

Now Dear PS3owner, not all gamers like the same thing as you. I can fully understand that you enjoy your fps, gta or whatever. Myself will continue to play my mario game for a decent price thank you. Ohh and Wii Sport is really really fun.