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TheTruthHurts! on 06 August 2008

@ kingofwale- The July NPD numbers will be out soon. If they are close in comparison to VGC, I hope you dont just drop off the face of this site, like many of the Sony Fanboys for the last 3 weeks of 360 outselling PS3.

I want PS3 to sell well too, but perhaps all the positive media, announced price cuts, FFXIII multi-plat, RPG library, Gears 2, XBL, Netflix, Game Hard Drive Download, ect. ect. is having a huge impact and swinging the ball in MS's favor for a change this year.

Or.....is it just too hard for some people to accept??



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kutasek on 06 August 2008
Gobias said:
When is July NPD anyways?

 

 in 2 weeks. Well when ioi said that there was supply constraint last week and now look numbers increased this week by almost 20k.

 



Acevil on 06 August 2008
TheTruthHurts! said:
@ kingofwale- The July NPD numbers will be out soon. If they are close in comparison to VGC, I hope you dont just drop off the face of this site, like many of the Sony Fanboys for the last 3 weeks of 360 outselling PS3.

I want PS3 to sell well too, but perhaps all the positive media, announced price cuts, FFXIII multi-plat, RPG library, Gears 2, XBL, Netflix, Game Hard Drive Download, ect. ect. is having a huge impact and swinging the ball in MS's favor for a change this year.

Or.....is it just too hard for some people to accept??

Totally agreed, and just like your name says the truth hurts.

 



 

pbroy on 06 August 2008
Gobias said:
Ronster316 said:
NPD/VG Chartz..... the outcome is gonna be the same..... 360 has whooped ps3 this month...... Wether you want to admit it or not.... FFXIII going to 360 had some impact...... sonys in trouble... deep trouble

 

Now this is a prime example of an unbiased poster, I mean, just look at his sig!

 

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Dgc1808 on 06 August 2008

Am starting to wonder if I can trust this site..... But I have no where else to go for this type of information...



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kingofwale on 06 August 2008
Kasz216 said:
Yakuzaice said:
Rath said:
kingofwale said:
The Mann said:

All ps3 fanboys revert to your last hope. VGchartz numbers were more in line with sonys shipment reports then NPD's were..

 

if you don't take in account of what Sony had in store before the current quarter of shipment.. as well as making assumptions of how many is left in store after the period.

kinda silly for us to say "oh, sony's shipment number.. *blah blah blah*.. when we dismiss openly of any company's shipment number as "just shipped, not sold to customers"

If your numbers are somewhat under the shipped numbers at that point in time then you are probably about correct - shipped numbers cannot be used as sell through but they can be used to help verify it.

@Yakuzaice. Sony's quaterly report had their shipped numbers and VGC's numbers made sense in comparison with their shipped numbers.

 

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. He said VGC is more accurate than NPD due to Sony's shipped numbers. Those numbers have no bearing on VGC's or NPD's accuracy in the United States.

 

Sure it does, when VGchartz numbers also match europe tracking frims and japanesse tracking firm numbers.

VGchartz lines up with Japan, Europe and Sony's numbers...

NPD doesn't line up with VGchartz... seems obvious.

 

well, it's not hard to do when you release your number AFTER 2 other companies in Japan. ;)

 



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MontanaHatchet on 06 August 2008

Somehow, seeing this thread does not surprise me.



 

 

Yakuzaice on 06 August 2008
Kasz216 said:
Yakuzaice said:
Rath said:
kingofwale said:
The Mann said:

All ps3 fanboys revert to your last hope. VGchartz numbers were more in line with sonys shipment reports then NPD's were..

 

if you don't take in account of what Sony had in store before the current quarter of shipment.. as well as making assumptions of how many is left in store after the period.

kinda silly for us to say "oh, sony's shipment number.. *blah blah blah*.. when we dismiss openly of any company's shipment number as "just shipped, not sold to customers"

If your numbers are somewhat under the shipped numbers at that point in time then you are probably about correct - shipped numbers cannot be used as sell through but they can be used to help verify it.

@Yakuzaice. Sony's quaterly report had their shipped numbers and VGC's numbers made sense in comparison with their shipped numbers.

 

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. He said VGC is more accurate than NPD due to Sony's shipped numbers. Those numbers have no bearing on VGC's or NPD's accuracy in the United States.

 

Sure it does, when VGchartz numbers also match europe tracking frims and japanesse tracking firm numbers.

VGchartz lines up with Japan, Europe and Sony's numbers...

NPD doesn't line up with VGchartz... seems obvious.

 

How many countries do we actually have current (through june) data from, Japan, Australia, US, Canada, Italy, probably some others I am missing.  I don't think we have enough to match up to worldwide numbers.  Why are we assuming other tracking services are correct while NPD is incorrect.  It isn't like VGC has been in line every time with other organization's numbers.  Back when I was actually keeping track of it, "others" numbers were adjusted pretty much weekly.  Who's to say GFK and Media Create aren't overtracking while NPD is on the dot. 

Also what are VGC's actual numbers for the US?

Anyways, I'm not saying either are right or wrong becasue frankly I have no idea.  I am just saying it takes a lot of assumptions to use Sony's WW shipments to prove that NPD is incorrect.



Acevil on 06 August 2008

Seriously I get the feeling kingofwale doesn't want to be on this site and hates this site, and yet comes here for some god knows what reason. MontanaHatchet's Link also shows this.



 

Baddman on 06 August 2008
MontanaHatchet said:

Somehow, seeing this thread does not surprise me.

 

 

i also wasn't suprised to see this thread and that's before i even saw that link