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Kasz216 said:
Yakuzaice said:
Rath said:
kingofwale said:
The Mann said:

All ps3 fanboys revert to your last hope. VGchartz numbers were more in line with sonys shipment reports then NPD's were..

 

if you don't take in account of what Sony had in store before the current quarter of shipment.. as well as making assumptions of how many is left in store after the period.

kinda silly for us to say "oh, sony's shipment number.. *blah blah blah*.. when we dismiss openly of any company's shipment number as "just shipped, not sold to customers"

If your numbers are somewhat under the shipped numbers at that point in time then you are probably about correct - shipped numbers cannot be used as sell through but they can be used to help verify it.

@Yakuzaice. Sony's quaterly report had their shipped numbers and VGC's numbers made sense in comparison with their shipped numbers.

 

That has nothing to do with what I am talking about. He said VGC is more accurate than NPD due to Sony's shipped numbers. Those numbers have no bearing on VGC's or NPD's accuracy in the United States.

 

Sure it does, when VGchartz numbers also match europe tracking frims and japanesse tracking firm numbers.

VGchartz lines up with Japan, Europe and Sony's numbers...

NPD doesn't line up with VGchartz... seems obvious.

 

How many countries do we actually have current (through june) data from, Japan, Australia, US, Canada, Italy, probably some others I am missing.  I don't think we have enough to match up to worldwide numbers.  Why are we assuming other tracking services are correct while NPD is incorrect.  It isn't like VGC has been in line every time with other organization's numbers.  Back when I was actually keeping track of it, "others" numbers were adjusted pretty much weekly.  Who's to say GFK and Media Create aren't overtracking while NPD is on the dot. 

Also what are VGC's actual numbers for the US?

Anyways, I'm not saying either are right or wrong becasue frankly I have no idea.  I am just saying it takes a lot of assumptions to use Sony's WW shipments to prove that NPD is incorrect.