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ioi said:
What are you going on about? Most of the 'bad' votes have now been removed so we are left with fair ones so no need to reset...

All the bad votes? The votes on the ps games that have been givin 1's and the nintendo games and the xbo games would be considered bad votes, the damage is still there why cant you reset any how?



 

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leo-j said:
ioi said:
What are you going on about? Most of the 'bad' votes have now been removed so we are left with fair ones so no need to reset...

All the bad votes? The votes on the ps games that have been givin 1's and the nintendo games and the xbo games would be considered bad votes, the damage is still there why cant you reset any how?


Because the Nintendo games are taking back over the top ten spot and the only PS game remaining on the list is being sucessfully pushed down on an hourly basis.  Why would they want to risk not having Zelda at the top?

Don't get me wrong, but Nintendo/Zelda isn't THAT good.



It seems the mods need help with this forum.  I have zero tolerance for trolling, platform criticism (Rule 4), and poster bad-mouthing (Rule 3.4) and you will be reported.

Review before posting: http://vgchartz.com/forum/rules.php

Don't you guys understand, it's simple, Nintendo's games are just better :)



KruzeS said:
So now we have scores well above 10, and it still isn't hacking, still isn't a problem!?

I am sorry, but what a joke... I mean, you people are great with sales tracking. VGChartz has become almost the definite source for those numbers. But please, stay clear off the rest, if you don't intend to work on it for real! Because amadoristic atempts like these at other things are only going to reflect negatively on the core of your site. Which is a shame.

What if the recent media exposure had been this week? I imagine how badly people must be laughing at NeoGAF...

I'll repeat: do it for real, or don't do it at all. The fact that you ignored rampant fanboyism and said there was no problem, when it was pretty clear that there was a problem, with double voting and all, only makes it worse. Makes you wonder whether sales numbers are dealt with the same way.

Get over yourself. This isnt a huge commercial site with a team of dedicated programmers working on it 24-7. mistakes will happen and im sure the operators will learn from it. If i can get a penny for every "professional" company's mistake id be richer than gates.

marc said:

Get over yourself. This isnt a huge commercial site with a team of dedicated programmers working on it 24-7. mistakes will happen and im sure the operators will learn from it. If i can get a penny for every "professional" company's mistake id be richer than gates.

I will, once you get a life.

In case you haven't noticed, the problem had already been brought up with the operators multiple times, just to be nothing short of ignored. Also, comercial or not, the site is getting (much wanted) exposure, and what happened made it look bad - which as I repeatedly stated was a shame, because the core of the site (sales data) is otherwise great.

I'd like to add that I am very glad the issue was fixed, and that users' suggestions were taken into account. I only regret things had to get so bad before the problem was even acknowledged.

Far too often users are fast to criticise, but very very slow to praise. And it's not always fair, but it's a fact of life. It's just the way it works as soon as you open your door to the general public. And while I totally acknowledge that my critique above was not exactly constructive, to my defense I'll say this was not exactly my first attempt at the subject at hand. All in all, I think I've praised this site (within it and without) far more often than I've criticized it. I also don't think anyone here needs your help defending themselves, but it's just what I deserve for going public myself.

PS: I'm personally rooting for you, and your 2.8 trillion corporate mistakes.



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ioi said: (...)

OK, thanks for answering.

I still find it strange how volatile certain games were with very little new votes, even before the first reports of out of bounds votes surfaced (once the scores got above 10). So, I assumed this issue was older than those first reports. But if you're sure no out of bounds votes had been registred by then, I guess I'll have no choice but believe you, as you alone own all the data.

About fanboy votes, the problem is that we're always working on a bounded scale (hopefully), so it's much easier for a small number disagreeing fanboys to push a good game down (or a bad game up) than it is for others (honest and otherwise) to compensate. That's why the plain average doesn't work so well - the distribution is never symmetric. Also games with fewer votes are always less statistically significant. Thus some of the suggestions a few members made.

You seem to have changed your methods, and though you've kept them under wraps, it definitly seems to be working better now, which is what matters. After all, IMDB doesn't publicize it's methods either (though we kinda know what those are anyway).



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