I still say it would be nice to get some game rankings scores. Reviewers: The great equalizers.
Edit: Ocarina of Time down to a 7.9 based on people who never played it saddens me :(

I still say it would be nice to get some game rankings scores. Reviewers: The great equalizers.
Edit: Ocarina of Time down to a 7.9 based on people who never played it saddens me :(

It is too convenient that all the Nintendo titles are voted down to the bottom of the list and are replaced with exclusivley Sony games. Looks like Sony fans can't handle not being king ofhll so they're reduced to this sort of childishness. I'll be glad when the Sony is finally out of gaming.
End of 2007 Predictions:
Wii =18m
360=14m
PS3=7m
DS=64m
PSP=30m
| Ackmed Tepish said: It is too convenient that all the Nintendo titles are voted down to the bottom of the list and are replaced with exclusivley Sony games. Looks like Sony fans can't handle not being king ofhll so they're reduced to this sort of childishness. I'll be glad when the Sony is finally out of gaming. |
That's a pretty nasty thing to say man. Especially considering the Nintendo fanboys did the exact same thing before ioi posted on Sony forums. Fanboys in general have no respect for other gamers and other gaming companies. Being a fanboy is not the way to enjoy gaming.

| Ackmed Tepish said: It is too convenient that all the Nintendo titles are voted down to the bottom of the list and are replaced with exclusivley Sony games. Looks like Sony fans can't handle not being king ofhll so they're reduced to this sort of childishness. I'll be glad when the Sony is finally out of gaming. |
And yet when I voted a 10 on some very high-quality Sony games only a few days ago there were people here who instantly gave them a 0.
Don't fool yourself Ackmed Tepish this voting swindle is not one-sided.
Also the old list did not comprise of any games apart from nintendo games. Who was being childish to begin with? And whos getting irked now that the list has changed?

Dallinor said:
And yet when I voted a 10 on some very high-quality Sony games only a few days ago there were people here who instantly gave them a 0. Don't fool yourself Ackmed Tepish this voting swindle is not one-sided. Also the old list did not comprise of any games apart from nintendo games. Who was being childish to begin with? And whos getting irked now that the list has changed?
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BOTH sides are being childish. Voting a 0 for a game you haven't played is ridiculous. Voting a 10 for a game based on brand is likewise ridiculous. The ratings on the site will probably simply never be reasonable.

Neos, grow up. Seriously. You sound VERY heavily like a twelve-year-old.
As for the voting system, I still think there are Sony fanboys out there taking advantage of a bug in the system. There's no way that Goldeneye007 and Zelda: OoT could EVER logically, seriously be outvoted by games like MGS3 or Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Granted, they may be decent games, but there's no way on earth that they're better than 007 or OoT - without a doubt the two most important and influential games of the late '90s (excluding Mario64 and StarFox64 (the one that brought us rumble)).
& This isn't fanboyism speaking, either. I've played many PS1 games, too, and as they DID have a plethora of great games, they didn't really ever have anything that spectacular or important. To this day, GE007 is undoubtedly the game that proved that consoles can offer excellent FPS, especially 4-player. Zelda:OoT took amazing visuals and went a step further, while giving us a taste of true videogame depth and a real plotline. Mario64, I shouldn't have to explain. That's probably the most important game of the '90s and today, hands down.
With that said, none of them are in the top 25, and none rank above an 8? Get real.
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Is it to drastic to throw away the data after limitation are put on voting such as only getting one vote and not letting guest vote. I know there has been a lot of votes taken it just seems like at the moment the system is ripe for manipulation from both sides. I mean just as an example Ninja Gaiden Sigma a game no one outside of Japan should of played except as a demo is higher that Legend of Zelda OoT but Ninja Gaiden which at the moment has sold more copies w/w and is essentially the same game has a 6.9 rating. Just seems like you could say over time it would balance out but after restrictions are put in those that have voted hundreds of times for games will have a disproportionate weight on where it is ultimatly placed as opposed to those that first use the voting system after restictions are put in place. I mean its not about all Nintendo or Sony or Microsoft games being in the top just about the games individual people think were great deserve to be right? I don't mind FF7 up there but do think having no xbox games at all is ridiculous and even though I never really got into the Metal Gear games having all 3 up there seems a little ridiculous if these are the top games we ever played.
| ioi said: Exactly, it's happening from all sides. A load of Sony fans have voted Sony games up but soon Nintendo games will be voted back up and so on. When you get to 1000+ votes then each vote won't change things much. Ocarina has dropped (likely because Sony people give it 1) but only be 0.6 points or something and it will climb back up when more people vote properly. Whatever kind of statistical methods I try to use people can and will still abuse it. Remove all 10s and 1s and everyone will vote 9s and 2s. Take means and medians and look at 95%-5% ranges and people will still abuse. The way to tackle this "abuse" is to have a representitive sample of people on the site. Maybe if people post links on MS forums that Halo is down at 85th or whatever it may encourage MS people to join and vote. The "problem" is that fundamentally we do seem to have a Nintendo bias as a site. It's not intentional or desirable but just the way things pan out - any amount of sophisticated statistical work won't change this - Nintendo games will generally score higher. The only way to balance is to get more MS / Sony people on the site - so help me promote it on forums and so on. People love to vote and sign up for stuff like this, lets encourage a better balance on the site by getting people on here to vote and try to put their opinion across... |
i think that maybe this site have more nintendo fans because the numbers looks good for nintendo right now, and few sony and xbox fans because the numbers looks very bad for this companies, a sony fan for example dont want to see that the ps3 is in 3rd place of this gen, and the xbox fans dont want to see that the xbox sell poor in japan, for that is more difficult get more Microsoft and sony fans, but i try to promote this site in this MS/Sony forums.

Seeing as FFVII now has an average score of 99.80, I think it's safe to say that foul play is afoot.
yep the rating system can easily be hacked, if an admin wants to know how it is done then please PM me ;)