it will move consoles,not whe lot though

Not as much as Gears 1.

We have to understand that Gears is an established franchise, it will push some consoles, but not much.

we will never know. as holiday sales starts peeking on november through december. hence, there is no way in hell in determining if the sales boost is due to gears2, the holiday season or to whatever game coming out near christmas.

MontanaHatchet said: Two words: Halo 2. I say American sales upon its launch could anywhere from 100-125k. Perhaps a bit more if the hype is really large and the reviews are good. However, I don't think the hardware bump will be spread out through the entire holiday season like Halo 3 or the previous Gears of War.

 

Halo 2 launched:

 

1) On a console that cost $150

2) During the holidays

 

Those two factors were far more responsible for the increase in hardware sales, and even then, it only lasted a few weeks.

Halo 3 also launched right before the holidays and right after a price cut.

Gears Of War appears to have moved large amounts of hardware, but it, too, was released during the holidays.

There are indeed games that move hardware, but not in the way that so many people on internet forums and gaming websites would suggest. There simply aren't that many people who are willing to buy a console just for one game, especially when the console is above mass market price point.

 

 

 

 

misterd said: I don't think so. Unless it gets GTA4/MGS4 type reviews, the people most interested in it are those who played GoW 1, and they already own a 360. You can apply the same reasoning to Resistance 2.

Generally speaking yes, but there are a few differences between the two.Gears of War has sold over 5.2 million copies worldwide. That's 5.2 million people who will not be purchasing a 360 if they buy Gears of War 2. Resistance: Fall of Man on the other hand has only sold 2.9 million copies worldwide. That gives Resistance 2 a larger market to convince to purchase a PS3 for than Gears 2. Furthermore, while Gears of War was a huge blockbuster that pretty much every Shooter fan purchased, Resistance was a lesser hit that didn't exactly tap into the playerbase due to it's relative mediocrite. Resistance 2 however, looks to be a significant improvement over its prequel that will likely stand toe-to-toe with Gears of War 2 within the shooter fanbase. Gears 2 in comparison is pretty much the original Gears of War with more weapons and a few extra multiplayer modes which gives off a distinctive "been there done that" feeling.As far as system-selling potential is concerned, Resistance 2 definitely has an edge over Gears of War 2.

I agree with most of the above. a liitle spike, then back to normal. the game will sell well though, but definitely to most of the people who bought the original.

This holiday season will be very different, as now the PS3 has games too. Gonna be interesting to watch.

Absolutely. Even though Gears 2 will be for the hardcore and those who have played the original, I can see some people buying a 360 for this game.

Absolutely. People said everybody who wanted Halo 3 would have already got one. That just isnt the case. I'm DEFINITELY getting one around that time. Too many bills at the moment. Cant wait for coop campaign!!!

Seihyouken said: misterd said: I don't think so. Unless it gets GTA4/MGS4 type reviews, the people most interested in it are those who played GoW 1, and they already own a 360. You can apply the same reasoning to Resistance 2. Generally speaking yes, but there are a few differences between the two.Gears of War has sold over 5.2 million copies worldwide. That's 5.2 million people who will not be purchasing a 360 if they buy Gears of War 2. Resistance: Fall of Man on the other hand has only sold 2.9 million copies worldwide. That gives Resistance 2 a larger market to convince to purchase a PS3 for than Gears 2. Furthermore, while Gears of War was a huge blockbuster that pretty much every Shooter fan purchased, Resistance was a lesser hit that didn't exactly tap into the playerbase due to it's relative mediocrite. Resistance 2 however, looks to be a significant improvement over its prequel that will likely stand toe-to-toe with Gears of War 2 within the shooter fanbase. Gears 2 in comparison is pretty much the original Gears of War with more weapons and a few extra multiplayer modes which gives off a distinctive "been there done that" feeling.As far as system-selling potential is concerned, Resistance 2 definitely has an edge over Gears of War 2.

I agree with most of this. However, I don;t think either game will push many consoles. I'm expecting a max boost of 75k for Geow2, though it will seem like a lot more because the game is releasing at the beginning of the holiday season

 

Lord N said: MontanaHatchet said: Two words: Halo 2. I say American sales upon its launch could anywhere from 100-125k. Perhaps a bit more if the hype is really large and the reviews are good. However, I don't think the hardware bump will be spread out through the entire holiday season like Halo 3 or the previous Gears of War.     Halo 2 launched:   1) On a console that cost $150 2) During the holidays   Those two factors were far more responsible for the increase in hardware sales, and even then, it only lasted a few weeks. Halo 3 also launched right before the holidays and right after a price cut. Gears Of War appears to have moved large amounts of hardware, but it, too, was released during the holidays. There are indeed games that move hardware, but not in the way that so many people on internet forums and gaming websites would suggest. There simply aren't that many people who are willing to buy a console just for one game, especially when the console is above mass market price point.

1. If price was a factor, the 360 wouldn't be selling faster than the Xbox at double or more the price.

2. Same thing with Gears of War 2. In fact, I think Halo 2 launched in October instead of Gears of War 2 which will launch in November (if memory serves).

And who says that people will buy the 360 just for Gears of War 2? Hell, maybe the person has wanted the 360 for months but just needed the proper motivation. If people bought the 360 for just one or two games, than it would have a poor attach rate like the Xbox did, but that's clearly not the case.

Your argument seems to be that GoW and Halo 2 only moved consoles because they launched before the holiday season, but the same could be said for Gears of War (what, do you think it's going to be released last thursday?).