From y-koron's sources, it appears that pre-orders stand for the retailer orders of the game. I believe Trusty Bell and NGS had 70k pre-orders for their first week, FolksSoul only had about 20k. 300k sounds like retailer orders for HSG5, and it's a big order because it's considered a big franchise in Japan. It's also the reason it is getting a bundle, in hopes it'll move systems.

Kber,

The WiiMote can recognize those actions(backhand forehand and spin) with no problem. You can use the Wii mote on your PC and see the inputs it is extemely amazing how accurate it really is.

that said the game can not recognize something that is not programmed in. Wii sports was meant to simple so that anyone can play but yet it is complicated enough that nayone can get better at it. If they don't program the backhand in than you can try all you want it will never recognize it.

Another problem is the one you mentioned in boxing ad that is how animations coincide with real time motion. Swing your wii mote like a sword and you keep going forward but if in the game the sword gets blocked the animation stops and the controller will have to programmed to respond like that. In Wii boxing the animations are actually slower than the human actually punching once again this is going to be in their for balancing issues so that people will play multiplayer. If you punch than punch again it will disregard the second punch if it is started to early so it seems buggy.

Programmers will have to learn how to program the exceptions for motion sensing and that will take a lot of thought and time something that most don't have if they want to get games out soon.

it is one of the reasons you see so many PS2 ports. all of the development goes into the controls and they use their PS2-GC conversion kits to do teh graphics.

 Absolutely agree with GBZ. A little more harsh than needed, as always, but very well worded. 

 you know there's 4 different pitches right?  you can also control the location and whether you want to do a sidearm delivery.  so pitching works pretty well, especially 2 player since it really does become like pitcher vs. batter guesswork, with lots of surprises.  (i like surprise sidearm deliveries)  (also, is 94mph fastball the max?)

we need to start a wii sports thread.  yeah, the spins in tennis are hard to do... but when you do execute the sidespins they are sooo awesome, almost impossible for a human player to return.  but rarely does it come down to hitting winners on sidespins, pretty much all the points are on volleys.  those are hectic, incredibly fun... but would be even better if there's singles, so that there's more skills involved.

it seems that all of these preorders are for retailers, if it was customers it would be very difficult to come up with that number. 300k preorders to customers for HSG is way too high, especially 1 month in advance, it's pretty clear that this is preorders from retailers who will preorder these things over a month in advance.

If we would have known that folksoul had 20k preorders nobody would have been expecting it to sell 70k on its first week.
We now know that DQ:S preorders are 250k and HSG has 300k.

There is a LOT of hatred and depression in this thread. I want to say a few things.

First, kudos to Kber81. He's shown himself to simply be a Sony fan, not a fanboy, as he can see facts and recognize their validity and/or relevance. Obviously I don't agree with everything he has to say, nor do I share his preferences, but facts are facts, and I respect his ability to face them.

Second, please recognize that the PS3's lack of popularity in Japan does not mean that you can't enjoy your PS3. It's looking EXTREMELY likely now that the PS3 will not dominate the Japanese market; and that's fine! Final Fantasy is still on the way, so is Metal Gear Solid, so is Gran Turismo, so are many other great looking games. Stop obssessing over something that has only minor significance to your gaming habits, and you'll be much happier.

Think of all the people who consider the Dreamcast their favorite system of all time, and that was Sega's death knell. The PS3 is doing considerably better than that. So please, don't equate "The PS3 doesn't dominate Japan" with "I cannot possibly have fun with my system."  

Wow. Read much? You call me the dumbass and then proceed to argue a point I wasn't even making.

Let us run through my points again:

- The popular games in Japan currently don't require top developmental teams. Most of them are puzzle or sim games.

- Blockbuster and conventional games aren't selling well in Japan but maintain strong growth in the West.

- This leads me to believe that we'll see the top dev teams from Konami, SE, Capcom, etc. will begin to shift those top teams to all Western-friendly games.

- Japan is pushing itself toward irrelevency because they're playing games no one else does, or at least not in the huge numbers they are in Japan. Combine the buying power of NA and the EU vs. Japan. If Japan isn't showing interest in the same games, what market are the publishers going to focus on? The bigger one.

- I never mentioned anyone "ruining gaming" nor did I even mention Nintendo once in my post. I own a Wii for crying out loud. It's a great system.

Either work on your reading comprehension or hesitate a minute before calling someone a dumbass. You might learn something from it.

 i wouldnt put to much fate in this list, this is a very select hardcore gamer group. gundam was also on number 4 or 5 in this list before it got released. it didnt do that good either.

i have so many problems with what you said I don't even know where to start. I'll get back to it later.