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zexen_lowe said:
Riachu said:
zexen_lowe said:
sc94597 said:
zexen_lowe said:
Best Story; Don't know if it counts, as it's a SRPG, Final Fantasy Tactics, If it doesn't, Suikoden II, then Chrono Cross
Worst Story: Dragon Quest VIII by far

Did you ever play chrono trigger? If so why would you choose chrono cross over chrono trigger?

@ItsaMii what about FFVI or Chrono Trigger? Do you like their stories?

 

Two reasons

1) I've never finished Trigger, i know everybody will hate me, but I stopped playing, I don't remember exactly where, around when you beat Dalton, perhaps a bit further.

2) I love complicated stories full of plot twists. Trigger's, while undoubtedly excellent, was more straightforward than Cross', or Xenosaga's, or Suikoden's to give some examples.

Trigger had plenty of plot twists. Just not the ones that make you either love or hate a game. *looks at Star Ocean 3*

 

I love that one. I think it's brillant

 

I enjoyed it and liked the plot twist even though I though it could've been fleshed out a little more

EDIT:People who actually liked Persona 3, Chrono Cross, FFVII, FFVIII etc. though they had really good plots.

 



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The JRPGs I've played with the worst stories would have to be the Paper Mario games (although I absolutely loved Thousand Year Door for its terrific writing and sense of humor.) The original Mario RPG on the other hand had a cool story because it was completely different from the usual Bowser-kidnaps-Peach; Tries-to-rule-world formula.

JRPGs with the best stories I've played, I'd say first the obvious choices, Chrono Trigger and FFVI, but I also love the Ys series for its huge over-arching storyline from game to game as well as great characters, and kick-ass music that really fuels you're adventures.



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ItsaMii said:

FF4 - the evil empire is killing people for magic crystals (in the end it is not even the empire). Stupid story, but the gameplay was gold for its time.


FF7 - overcomplicated, complex, confusing, translation issues. Half of the game is told in fake narrative, then all of a sudden they introduce a major plot twist and demand you to forget and ignore the last 20-25 hours of history.

FF8 - what the fuck is the game all about? Is it about the Gardens fighting evil empires? Is it a love story? Is it about the evil sorceress living in the moon? The game shifts its objeticve without giving any good reason for it.

FF X-2 - If you need an explanation you are part of the problem.

FF XII - One of the worst since FF 8. Fanboys will just scream that it is a political plot and call it a day. They have no clue what the word political mean. How the fuck the story is political focused? It is about a princess on a quest to retrieve magical rocks to fight the evil emperor (controled by an evil god), teaming with people dressed like circus performers. Try to do that in real world to see how absurd it is. Stalin team up with Hades, then the princess of one soviet colony (dressed like a cheap prostitute) go on a quest to get magic rocks more powerfull than nuclear weapons. She teams up with a criminal that apparently killed her family, 2 random orphans she find on the streets (one wearing a leotard and the other a gay outifit), a playboy bunny and a guy dressed like a croupier (son of Soviet Union most evil scientist).

Are you seriously criticizing the story of FFIV? It was made in 1991 and at the time the story was as good as it got. It was arguably the first RPG to have actual character development and the moral evolution of Cecil and Kain is huge chunk of the game.

FF7 was confusing and overcomplicated? I strongly disagree. I also think you're missing the point of a plot twist, your criticism is the entire point of a plot twist. It's supposed to turn the story upside down and make what you thought was real, no longer true. Hence the word "twist".

Example: "Darth Vader killed your father" >>>>> "Darth Vader is your Father". I guess Star Wars: The Last Hope sucks because it was all a lie.

FF8, your criticizing the game for having too many things go on, but that is a terrible reason. Are stories not allowed to be about something and have a love story at the same time? I guess Spiderman is stupid because he likes Mary Jane, or Superman is dumb because he loves Lois and wants to stop Lex Luther as well. Stories have a central objective, but often the best stories have sub-plots that help drive the story as a whole.

FFX-2 was a cash-in and a fan service, what do you expect?

FFXII - Your rant on this game is just stupid. You're picking apart the plot and trying to discredit it through attempts at humor. I guess Star Wars sucks because it has some robotic nimrod in a Dominatrix outfit being given orders by an ugly hunchback. Lord of the Rings is dumb because the central protagonist with hairy feet teams up with some short disgruntled fatass, an androgynous marksman, a geezer and a guy who needs a haircut. You're critcizing the character design, but that's what Fantasy is

As for the part about "Political", generally when games involve Government, they get the political tag. Is it a story about Politics? No it isn't. However, it is a story that uses Politics to further the story.

Part of your problem is you look at stories only on the surface and don't look deeper into what they're actually trying to say. What the story is about, is not the same as what the story is trying to say.



(I can't say I've played many JRPGs even if it is my favourite genre)
Best: Final Fantasy VIII/Final Fantasy IX


(worst is such a harsh word)
Not as good: Dragon Quest VIII. I still like it's story though and enjoy the characters. Although it's simple, that doesn't bother me.



best- I'm currently replaying Persona 3.....and reminded of how awesome it is....it's a toss up right now between that and Earthbound

worst- game called Magna Carta I think.....GD that was awful, I couldn't even force myself to complete it.



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best: Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
worst: Kingdom Hearts II



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Stats87 said:
ItsaMii said:

FF4 - the evil empire is killing people for magic crystals (in the end it is not even the empire). Stupid story, but the gameplay was gold for its time.


FF7 - overcomplicated, complex, confusing, translation issues. Half of the game is told in fake narrative, then all of a sudden they introduce a major plot twist and demand you to forget and ignore the last 20-25 hours of history.

FF8 - what the fuck is the game all about? Is it about the Gardens fighting evil empires? Is it a love story? Is it about the evil sorceress living in the moon? The game shifts its objeticve without giving any good reason for it.

FF X-2 - If you need an explanation you are part of the problem.

FF XII - One of the worst since FF 8. Fanboys will just scream that it is a political plot and call it a day. They have no clue what the word political mean. How the fuck the story is political focused? It is about a princess on a quest to retrieve magical rocks to fight the evil emperor (controled by an evil god), teaming with people dressed like circus performers. Try to do that in real world to see how absurd it is. Stalin team up with Hades, then the princess of one soviet colony (dressed like a cheap prostitute) go on a quest to get magic rocks more powerfull than nuclear weapons. She teams up with a criminal that apparently killed her family, 2 random orphans she find on the streets (one wearing a leotard and the other a gay outifit), a playboy bunny and a guy dressed like a croupier (son of Soviet Union most evil scientist).

Are you seriously criticizing the story of FFIV? It was made in 1991 and at the time the story was as good as it got. It was arguably the first RPG to have actual character development and the moral evolution of Cecil and Kain is huge chunk of the game.

FF7 was confusing and overcomplicated? I strongly disagree. I also think you're missing the point of a plot twist, your criticism is the entire point of a plot twist. It's supposed to turn the story upside down and make what you thought was real, no longer true. Hence the word "twist".

Example: "Darth Vader killed your father" >>>>> "Darth Vader is your Father". I guess Star Wars: The Last Hope sucks because it was all a lie.

FF8, your criticizing the game for having too many things go on, but that is a terrible reason. Are stories not allowed to be about something and have a love story at the same time? I guess Spiderman is stupid because he likes Mary Jane, or Superman is dumb because he loves Lois and wants to stop Lex Luther as well. Stories have a central objective, but often the best stories have sub-plots that help drive the story as a whole.

FFX-2 was a cash-in and a fan service, what do you expect?

FFXII - Your rant on this game is just stupid. You're picking apart the plot and trying to discredit it through attempts at humor. I guess Star Wars sucks because it has some robotic nimrod in a Dominatrix outfit being given orders by an ugly hunchback. Lord of the Rings is dumb because the central protagonist with hairy feet teams up with some short disgruntled fatass, an androgynous marksman, a geezer and a guy who needs a haircut. You're critcizing the character design, but that's what Fantasy is

As for the part about "Political", generally when games involve Government, they get the political tag. Is it a story about Politics? No it isn't. However, it is a story that uses Politics to further the story.

Part of your problem is you look at stories only on the surface and don't look deeper into what they're actually trying to say. What the story is about, is not the same as what the story is trying to say.

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In my case:

Worst Story: Guardian's Crusade: The first half of the game I was "WTF am I supposed to do in this game besides babysitting a cute dragon?"  (20 hours) I was leveling up, visiting new places and everything. But almost no story... The second half got better but didn't make up.

Best Stroy: Xenogears: This game floors me everytime I play it. The story is so great and on spot everytime :)



Best: Kingdom Hearts (series)
Worst: I guess Pokemon, since most others were pretty good



Sherlock99 said:
best: Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
worst: Kingdom Hearts II

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You just blasphemed