All the JRPGs you´ve ever played, which one had the best and worst story?

[Riachu]

Stats87 said:

ItsaMii said:

FF4 - the evil empire is killing people for magic crystals (in the end it is not even the empire). Stupid story, but the gameplay was gold for its time.

FF7 - overcomplicated, complex, confusing, translation issues. Half of the game is told in fake narrative, then all of a sudden they introduce a major plot twist and demand you to forget and ignore the last 20-25 hours of history.

FF8 - what the fuck is the game all about? Is it about the Gardens fighting evil empires? Is it a love story? Is it about the evil sorceress living in the moon? The game shifts its objeticve without giving any good reason for it.

FF X-2 - If you need an explanation you are part of the problem.

FF XII - One of the worst since FF 8. Fanboys will just scream that it is a political plot and call it a day. They have no clue what the word political mean. How the fuck the story is political focused? It is about a princess on a quest to retrieve magical rocks to fight the evil emperor (controled by an evil god), teaming with people dressed like circus performers. Try to do that in real world to see how absurd it is. Stalin team up with Hades, then the princess of one soviet colony (dressed like a cheap prostitute) go on a quest to get magic rocks more powerfull than nuclear weapons. She teams up with a criminal that apparently killed her family, 2 random orphans she find on the streets (one wearing a leotard and the other a gay outifit), a playboy bunny and a guy dressed like a croupier (son of Soviet Union most evil scientist).

Are you seriously criticizing the story of FFIV? It was made in 1991 and at the time the story was as good as it got. It was arguably the first RPG to have actual character development and the moral evolution of Cecil and Kain is huge chunk of the game.

FF7 was confusing and overcomplicated? I strongly disagree. I also think you're missing the point of a plot twist, your criticism is the entire point of a plot twist. It's supposed to turn the story upside down and make what you thought was real, no longer true. Hence the word "twist".

Example: "Darth Vader killed your father" >>>>> "Darth Vader is your Father". I guess Star Wars: The Last Hope sucks because it was all a lie.

FF8, your criticizing the game for having too many things go on, but that is a terrible reason. Are stories not allowed to be about something and have a love story at the same time? I guess Spiderman is stupid because he likes Mary Jane, or Superman is dumb because he loves Lois and wants to stop Lex Luther as well. Stories have a central objective, but often the best stories have sub-plots that help drive the story as a whole.

FFX-2 was a cash-in and a fan service, what do you expect?

FFXII - Your rant on this game is just stupid. You're picking apart the plot and trying to discredit it through attempts at humor. I guess Star Wars sucks because it has some robotic nimrod in a Dominatrix outfit being given orders by an ugly hunchback. Lord of the Rings is dumb because the central protagonist with hairy feet teams up with some short disgruntled fatass, an androgynous marksman, a geezer and a guy who needs a haircut. You're critcizing the character design, but that's what Fantasy is

As for the part about "Political", generally when games involve Government, they get the political tag. Is it a story about Politics? No it isn't. However, it is a story that uses Politics to further the story.

Part of your problem is you look at stories only on the surface and don't look deeper into what they're actually trying to say. What the story is about, is not the same as what the story is trying to say.

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