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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS3 will sell around 3million units in others alone in december 2008

bdbdbd said:
@Leo-J: So, we are talking about the time period of 9-21 months after launch.

The big difference here is, that PS3 isn't the winning console, unlike PS2 was. When PS2 was gaining more and more momentum with increasing number of big titles, PS3 is not winning and the biggest hitters are already out (not counting FF13). The support PS3 is getting, is mostly multiplatform releases with 360, while 3rd party exclusives are going for the Wii. Sales numbers (as in raw numbers) in this comparision are kind of irrelevant, what counts is the change in the numbers during the chosen period.

 

 The only ps3 "heavey hitters out" are ratchet, uncharted, resistance, warhawk, and MGS4(more like the wii's heavy hitters are all out)

There are still plenty of titiles left which are more than what nintendo 1 st party and microsoft 1st party have put together.

3rd party exclusives, such as monster hunter I agree, but thats it. Mad world looks good, but its not a "heavy hitter" nor proven IP.

PS3 still has GRAN TURISMO 5, FF XIII, GOD OF WAR, ICO project, UNCHARTED 2(already confirmed), RESISTANCE 2, and even KILLZONE 2 to look up to, all of those with the exception of killzone are proven AAA titles from AAA devs.

Not to mention the yet to be announced ps2 to ps3 sequels, that we might hear about in E3.

Also the console may not be in 1st place, but it still getting more 3rd party support than the wii, and its outselling the cheaper 360 despite being highly priced.



 

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leo-j said:
bdbdbd said:
@Leo-J: So, we are talking about the time period of 9-21 months after launch.

The big difference here is, that PS3 isn't the winning console, unlike PS2 was. When PS2 was gaining more and more momentum with increasing number of big titles, PS3 is not winning and the biggest hitters are already out (not counting FF13). The support PS3 is getting, is mostly multiplatform releases with 360, while 3rd party exclusives are going for the Wii. Sales numbers (as in raw numbers) in this comparision are kind of irrelevant, what counts is the change in the numbers during the chosen period.

 

The only ps3 "heavey hitters out" are ratchet, uncharted, resistance, warhawk, and MGS4(more like the wii's heavy hitters are all out)

There are still plenty of titiles left which are more than what nintendo 1 st party and microsoft 1st party have put together.

3rd party exclusives, such as monster hunter I agree, but thats it. Mad world looks good, but its not a "heavy hitter" nor proven IP.

PS3 still has GRAN TURISMO 5, FF XIII, GOD OF WAR, ICO project, UNCHARTED 2(already confirmed), RESISTANCE 2, and even KILLZONE 2 to look up to, all of those with the exception of killzone are proven AAA titles from AAA devs.

Not to mention the yet to be announced ps2 to ps3 sequels, that we might hear about in E3.

Also the console may not be in 1st place, but it still getting more 3rd party support than the wii, and its outselling the cheaper 360 despite being highly priced.

If you class uncharted, ratchet and warhawk as "heavy hitters" then why do you say all the Wii's heavy hitters are out.

I mean Nintendo 1st party alone has a number of games as big, or much bigger than those.

 



Very possible,
ADD a pricecut.

PS2 was whole 2001 at 299 euro.
PS3 now is at 399 euro and may go to 299-349 euro during Christmas. THAT will also spike sales by A LOT. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

leo-j said:

Indications are that wii will not outsell the PS3 this december in OTHERS.

edit now I know it there is a mod editing my posts

You're just being silly.

I mean... seriously?

PS3 is going to beat wii despite being outsold by double currently?

 



CrazzyMan said:
Very possible,
ADD a pricecut.

PS2 was whole 2001 at 299 euro.
PS3 now is at 399 euro and may go to 299-349 euro during Christmas. THAT will also spike sales by A LOT. =)

PS3 is a Million a Million Behind PS2 at this stage of it's life in europe.

Making it only 80% as popular as the PS2.

Even less so when you consider the fact PS2 was always short stocked during the holidays at this time of the lifespan and some consumers only buy systems durig the holidays. In 2001 i'm pretty sure the PS2 was shorstocked lots of places during the year as well.  January through April at the least... probably longer.

Considering holiday boosts are not linear, in otherwords a console that's half as popular doesn't receive half the boost... this isn't really likely.



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@Soriku, these Wii games are NOT system sellers, most of these titles ONLY nintendo fans cares(those 24 mln. from GC userbase).

PS3 is going to have MUCH more proven tittles. Wii is going to have MUCH more casual non-gamers stuff.

@Kasz216, it behind only BECAUSE PS2 already had it SECOND Christmas in Europe, PS3 is only going to have.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@Soriku, these Wii games are NOT system sellers, most of these titles ONLY nintendo fans cares(those 24 mln. from GC userbase).

PS3 is going to have MUCH more proven tittles. Wii is going to have MUCH more casual non-gamers stuff.

Please tell me how you know the games aren't system sellers. Also 10 mln sold for just one game in the series isn't proven? Half those games Leo-J listed don't sell anywhere close to the amount of some first party titles.

 



It still amazes me that PS3 fans just can't accept that the PS3 is NOT the PS2. 2001 had a sh*tload of some of the biggest games ever for PS2. Not to be harsh, but what does this holiday have for PS3?

Resistance 2 and Motorstorm 2?

I guess it's quite clear that that's not a killer line-up, especially since the fanbase of those games is already on the PS3.
Seriously, Sony doesn't have a clue what it's doing. At the very least GT5 and God of War 3 should have been ready for this holiday. They have some momentum going, but I think the weak holiday line-up will kill the momentum.



no i dont think it will sell 3 million in one month,i dont even think DS did it last year



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@Leo-J: As for the PS3 to PS3 sequels you mentioned, none were a similar phenomenon that would make sequel to sell consoles for the people who doesn't already have one. Resistance and Killzone sequels are going to eat each others sales and there are more shooters coming for christmas i believe. I forgot all about GT5, you're right about that one, but FF13 isn't going to hit christmas market.
How much did God of Wars sell? If i'm not mistaken, they did pretty well, but nothing big considering PS2 userbase.
Now, the 3rd parties, there's really not much financial sense for them to publish something for PS3 instead of Wii. Of course, PC and 360 will play their part in this game, but not exclusives.

And as you said, Sony has more left, than what M$ and Nintendo have put so far, but obviously Nintendo has more left than what Nintendo, M$ and Sony have so far put out combined.



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