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vaio on 03 July 2008

It seems that no mutter how much Wii sells they still loose ground according to theese analysts.



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TWRoO on 03 July 2008

Lol, I remember there was a similar article back around Christmas when the PS3 weekly sales caught up to Wii for a couple of weeks.

And there was another similar article about 1 year ago.... the Wii had been outselling PS3 about 6:1, but a couple of months later it was only 3:1 and there was an article stating "PS3 catching up to Wii"

It's odd that there are no articles about it when the Wii pulls off anything spectacular (like 4:1 or 5:1 months)



Uraeus on 03 July 2008

Actually you do not need to outsell someone to catch up. First of all the original article seems to use the term in the context of weekly sales. So they can mean catch up in weekly sales, which is different than lifetime sales (duh :).

Secondly, in terms of lifetime marketshare you do not need to outsell someone to 'catch up', you only need to do so to overtake. You just need to improve your sales ratio to be better than the historic one to start catching up in terms of market share. Of course if you actually outsell your competitor you will speed up the process of catching up in terms of market share a lot. Seriously people this is basic mathematics. Just to make it very simple. If you have lifetime sales of 50 units and your competitor have sold 100 units you will have a market share of 33% while your competitor has a market share of 66%. If the next week you sell 90 units and your competitor sells a 100, he still sells more than you, but your market share still grows to 41%.



Godot on 03 July 2008
kowenicki said:
DarkLord2008 said:
PS3 outsells the X360 13 to 1.

 

 er.... ?  i dont think it does..  anywhere in this universe.

 

Yes. In a far away galaxy.... called Japan.



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Dolla Dolla on 03 July 2008
Uraeus said:
Actually you do not need to outsell someone to catch up. First of all the original article seems to use the term in the context of weekly sales. So they can mean catch up in weekly sales, which is different than lifetime sales (duh :).

Secondly, in terms of lifetime marketshare you do not need to outsell someone to 'catch up', you only need to do so to overtake. You just need to improve your sales ratio to be better than the historic one to start catching up in terms of market share. Of course if you actually outsell your competitor you will speed up the process of catching up in terms of market share a lot. Seriously people this is basic mathematics. Just to make it very simple. If you have lifetime sales of 50 units and your competitor have sold 100 units you will have a market share of 33% while your competitor has a market share of 66%. If the next week you sell 90 units and your competitor sells a 100, he still sells more than you, but your market share still grows to 41%.

Ah, so percentages are important?

Nice. And we sillies thought it was just the raw numbers!



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TheBigFatJ on 03 July 2008
DarkLord2008 said:
PS3 outsells the X360 13 to 1.

Not normally. Usually in Japan they're both at the bottom of the barrel with the PS3 outselling the Xbox 360 by only a few thousand units (maybe 5k or 6k).

 



BengaBenga on 03 July 2008
Dolla Dolla said:
Uraeus said:
Actually you do not need to outsell someone to catch up. First of all the original article seems to use the term in the context of weekly sales. So they can mean catch up in weekly sales, which is different than lifetime sales (duh :).

Secondly, in terms of lifetime marketshare you do not need to outsell someone to 'catch up', you only need to do so to overtake. You just need to improve your sales ratio to be better than the historic one to start catching up in terms of market share. Of course if you actually outsell your competitor you will speed up the process of catching up in terms of market share a lot. Seriously people this is basic mathematics. Just to make it very simple. If you have lifetime sales of 50 units and your competitor have sold 100 units you will have a market share of 33% while your competitor has a market share of 66%. If the next week you sell 90 units and your competitor sells a 100, he still sells more than you, but your market share still grows to 41%.

Ah, so percentages are important?

Nice. And we sillies thought it was just the raw numbers!

Silly you, everyone knows it's all about teh atachrates!

 



brute on 03 July 2008

ok i wouldnt say its catching up,for it to be catching up it needs to be outselling it in total sales



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Uraeus on 03 July 2008
Dolla Dolla said:
Uraeus said:
Actually you do not need to outsell someone to catch up. First of all the original article seems to use the term in the context of weekly sales. So they can mean catch up in weekly sales, which is different than lifetime sales (duh :).

Secondly, in terms of lifetime marketshare you do not need to outsell someone to 'catch up', you only need to do so to overtake. You just need to improve your sales ratio to be better than the historic one to start catching up in terms of market share. Of course if you actually outsell your competitor you will speed up the process of catching up in terms of market share a lot. Seriously people this is basic mathematics. Just to make it very simple. If you have lifetime sales of 50 units and your competitor have sold 100 units you will have a market share of 33% while your competitor has a market share of 66%. If the next week you sell 90 units and your competitor sells a 100, he still sells more than you, but your market share still grows to 41%.

Ah, so percentages are important?

Nice. And we sillies thought it was just the raw numbers!

Yeah, well seems to be a lot of people on this site who should spend more time doing their school homework and less time gaming :)

Percentages matter of course just as much or little as raw numbers or rather they only matter when looked at together. A percentage is 'meaningless' if one company sold one unit and the other two even though the percentage is high, just as much as bragging about a 200 000 unit sales lead is meaningless if the total sales of the market means that is a 0.00001 percentage lead in sales.

 



DirtyP2002 on 03 July 2008
Godot said:
kowenicki said:
DarkLord2008 said:
PS3 outsells the X360 13 to 1.

 

 er.... ?  i dont think it does..  anywhere in this universe.

 

Yes. In a far away galaxy.... called Japan.

 

 not even there... funniest thing this week:

Xbox360 software outsold the PS3 software in the third week after MGS4 in Japan. But wii dominates world wide.



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