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Final-Fan on 21 December 2008

But more importantly, when the Wii is passing the 100 million mark, it won't take as big a success for a game to get 1 million copies sold, compared to the 360, which might get lucky enough to crawl its way up to 50 million.



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Agamemnon862 on 21 December 2008

The Wii will, inevitably. Xbox 360 will be second.



Final-Fan on 21 December 2008
seece said:
Final-Fan said:
goddog said:
final-fan nintendo can only make so many first party games

Again, using that Wikipedia list: 
24 million sellers
14 Nintendo
10 other

So clearly Nintendo CAN make a lot of first party games, which give it an advantage. 

But just as clearly, Nintendo doesn't have to carry ALL the weight.  (If it did, I would agree that it would not win.)
17 of the 34 million sellers on Wii are first party, thats half.

Thank you for the update. 

See?  Third parties are getting a bigger proportion of the million sellers now, even if Nintendo still does (and always will) dominate the TOP sellers.



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1337 Gamer on 21 December 2008

360

i doubt nintendo can make 50+ million seller games



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goddog on 21 December 2008
Final-Fan said:
seece said:
Final-Fan said:
goddog said:
final-fan nintendo can only make so many first party games

Again, using that Wikipedia list: 
24 million sellers
14 Nintendo
10 other

So clearly Nintendo CAN make a lot of first party games, which give it an advantage. 

But just as clearly, Nintendo doesn't have to carry ALL the weight.  (If it did, I would agree that it would not win.)
17 of the 34 million sellers on Wii are first party, thats half.

Thank you for the update. 

See?  Third parties are getting a bigger proportion of the million sellers now, even if Nintendo still does (and always will) dominate the TOP sellers.

so we will go with  .50 first party, .5 third party not so bad    17/34 first party

360 has   .19 first party   .81 third party   11/58 first party

see the problem? 

see how many games nintendo has to push out... now if nintendo can do it awsom im all for 50+ fantastic first party games, and i have no dount that 3rd parties will gain traction. however i do not feel nintendo can keep up the number of first party needed, or that 3rd parites will figure out a consistant way to keep making million sellers. 

they dont get the same sells that yearly million seller sports games that other platforms can count on.

they way the could over come it you have talked about, being the largest selling console ever, and i could see that happening, 150 million+

however, i also see both the 360, and ps3 selling more then 2&3 consoles ever have, more then some generations winners sold i expect sales ending in the 80-90s because of a prolonged generation by all players, 

this puts the weight back on nintendo to pushout more first party hits, or help devs figure out what they are doing wrong.

over all it its good foreveryone, because more people will be enjoying this past time and more great games will be made 

edit: 150+ for the wii now feels low that i think about it, but i need to see next year and how the public reacts to nintendos first price cut when ever that happens 



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Final-Fan on 21 December 2008
goddog said:

so we will go with  .50 first party, .5 third party not so bad    17/34 first party

360 has   .19 first party   .81 third party   11/58 first party

see the problem? 

see how many games nintendo has to push out... now if nintendo can do it awsom im all for 50+ fantastic first party games, and i have no dount that 3rd parties will gain traction. however i do not feel nintendo can keep up the number of first party needed, or that 3rd parites will figure out a consistant way to keep making million sellers. 

they dont get the same sells that yearly million seller sports games that other platforms can count on.

they way the could over come it you have talked about, being the largest selling console ever, and i could see that happening, 150 million+

however, i also see both the 360, and ps3 selling more then 2&3 consoles ever have, more then some generations winners sold i expect sales ending in the 80-90s because of a prolonged generation by all players, 

this puts the weight back on nintendo to pushout more first party hits, or help devs figure out what they are doing wrong.

over all it its good foreveryone, because more people will be enjoying this past time and more great games will be made 

edit: 150+ for the wii now feels low that i think about it, but i need to see next year and how the public reacts to nintendos first price cut when ever that happens 

So what you're saying is that if the Wii and 360 could somehow end up with similar lifetime console sales, the 360 would definitely keep the lead, but instead the Wii will crush 360 sales and win the million-sellers contest at least partially through its massive installed-base advantage? 

I'll agree with that.



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Commando on 21 December 2008

I still hold on to my original prediction that the massive fanbase of the Wii will eventually turn things in Nintendo's favor, but damn 58 million sellers in 3 years, thats nothing to shake a stick at!

I imagine next years holiday rush could resurrect quite a few titles in limbo released since the launch. I think the best strategy for big N to reinforce this is to somehow find away to push some of these 2007 and 2008 titles on to store's shelves so people can see them. Let's face it, a lot of games weren't bought because half the user base were still waiting in lines trying to get the damn system during their shelf life.



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c0rd on 21 December 2008

I think Nintendo's games on the userbase is actually a weakness, here (in terms of # of million sellers). The games are so top heavy that it takes away tons of sales from the other, less desirable games. I still think the Wii will make it out in the end, though.

Wii > 360 > PS3.

As to when this will happen? It may take a very, very long time - 2011, even. Depends how long the 360 can hold up (its software sales so far have been pretty damn amazing).



goddog on 21 December 2008
Final-Fan said:
goddog said:

so we will go with  .50 first party, .5 third party not so bad    17/34 first party

360 has   .19 first party   .81 third party   11/58 first party

see the problem? 

see how many games nintendo has to push out... now if nintendo can do it awsom im all for 50+ fantastic first party games, and i have no dount that 3rd parties will gain traction. however i do not feel nintendo can keep up the number of first party needed, or that 3rd parites will figure out a consistant way to keep making million sellers. 

they dont get the same sells that yearly million seller sports games that other platforms can count on.

they way the could over come it you have talked about, being the largest selling console ever, and i could see that happening, 150 million+

however, i also see both the 360, and ps3 selling more then 2&3 consoles ever have, more then some generations winners sold i expect sales ending in the 80-90s because of a prolonged generation by all players, 

this puts the weight back on nintendo to pushout more first party hits, or help devs figure out what they are doing wrong.

over all it its good foreveryone, because more people will be enjoying this past time and more great games will be made 

edit: 150+ for the wii now feels low that i think about it, but i need to see next year and how the public reacts to nintendos first price cut when ever that happens 

So what you're saying is that if the Wii and 360 could somehow end up with similar lifetime console sales, the 360 would definitely keep the lead, but instead the Wii will crush 360 sales and win the million-sellers contest at least partially through its massive installed-base advantage? 

I'll agree with that.

your missing it look at the numbers i put up wii 150+ xbox 80-90   that would mean the wii would double the 360s userbase. Im saying that nintendo to have the most million sellers must get its 3rd party million sellers up in terms of million seller % if they can get it to 70-80% 3rd party yeah they should have it with that base but if it hangs around 50-60% there is just no way nintendo can crank out that many games

 



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Final-Fan on 21 December 2008

The ratio has been tilting more and more to 3rd party, I see no reason it wouldn't continue.

Anyway, they got 20 on the Gamecube, with less than 1/5 the consoles Wii will have. I bet we'll see more than you think from first party as well.



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