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The PS3 will outsell the PS2, i am saying this based off a number of facts and personal opinions.

- Blu Ray
- 10 Year Life Cycle
- Best Libary of Games
- Ever improving Online

For me, they havnt lost anything. They have introduced the new standard of the next media format (Blu Ray), improved their online from PS2, fixed many of their reliablity issues which they had with the PS2 and built a quality games and media console. Their sales have also been very good considering it is still at a very high price and has only released 1 of it's big games.



Gamer4eva said:
The PS3 will outsell the PS2, i am saying this based off a number of facts and personal opinions.

- Blu Ray
- 10 Year Life Cycle
- Best Libary of Games
- Ever improving Online

For me, they havnt lost anything. They have introduced the new standard of the next media format (Blu Ray), improved their online from PS2, fixed many of their reliablity issues which they had with the PS2 and built a quality games and media console. Their sales have also been very good considering it is still at a very high price and has only released 1 of it's big games.

 

 Until its the wii's price, and has that library of games it has no chance. It doesnt appeal to casuals as much as the wii, or to the core as much as the 360.



 

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If BD is the new standard in movie format, and if the PS3 is the reason for it, Sony will profit more from this generation of gaming consoles then MS and Nintendo combined.



TheRealMafoo said:
If BD is the new standard in movie format, and if the PS3 is the reason for it, Sony will profit more from this generation of gaming consoles then MS and Nintendo combined.

 

 Wow way to optimistic, if blu-ray doesnt replace DVD it could actually mean that sony can lose money on the format, like they did with UMD.

If HD does take over, and blu-ray's market share takes at least 25% of all DVD sales, I can see sony gaining PS3 sales, and making tons of money. Though until then its not going to happen. Sony GAMING DIVISION doesnt profit from blu-ray, they profit off software sales, and hardware sales, the PS3 is still costing them lots, if software sales dont increase significantly and if we dont see the PSP sales double(same with ps2) its not even going to make as much as microsoft profit wise.



 

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leo-j said:
Gamer4eva said:
The PS3 will outsell the PS2, i am saying this based off a number of facts and personal opinions.

- Blu Ray
- 10 Year Life Cycle
- Best Libary of Games
- Ever improving Online

For me, they havnt lost anything. They have introduced the new standard of the next media format (Blu Ray), improved their online from PS2, fixed many of their reliablity issues which they had with the PS2 and built a quality games and media console. Their sales have also been very good considering it is still at a very high price and has only released 1 of it's big games.

 

 Until its the wii's price, and has that library of games it has no chance. It doesnt appeal to casuals as much as the wii, or to the core as much as the 360.

You do realise that "core gamers" and "Blu ray users" are a group that overlaps pretty well. The people who love to play games - males, 16-30 coincides quite well with the people that apreciate Blu ray. 

I remember seeing a lot on these forums and others "I'll pick up a PS3 because it has Blu ray - and plays games" - thats the value angle, which would be irrelevant if this group didn't apreciate Blu ray. For this group, the Wii is overpriced comparitively because it DOESNT play blu ray.

Hey I always mention blu ray in the Elite as one of the key factors for accelerating Xbox360 takeup for this reason. I may as well be honest and admit it here. 

 



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Aj_habfan said:
Yea, we knew that a year ago. But the PS3 did so horribly last year, that making a recovery this gen is more of the new mesure of success. We can't just ignore any accomplishment the PS3 has made and say, "It was in first last gen, nothing else matters."

 

+1.  This thread is rationalization at it's best.  Halo was not the final nail in the coffin for the PS3 and MGS4 launched much better than expected.

 

I could find reasons the other consoles failed -

 

Microsoft - Going to most likely end up 3rd this gen instead of 2nd.  They still are not getting the attention of Japan and Mainland Europe very well.

 

Nintendo - While having much better success than the PS2 did at this point in hardware sales, third parties still aren't giving the same attention as they did to the PS2, as evidenced by all the "Boycott Ubisoft" sigs in Wii Fanboys' sigs.

 



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leo-j said:
TheRealMafoo said:
If BD is the new standard in movie format, and if the PS3 is the reason for it, Sony will profit more from this generation of gaming consoles then MS and Nintendo combined.

 

 Wow way to optimistic, if blu-ray doesnt replace DVD it could actually mean that sony can lose money on the format, like they did with UMD.

If HD does take over, and blu-ray's market share takes at least 25% of all DVD sales, I can see sony gaining PS3 sales, and making tons of money. Though until then its not going to happen. Sony GAMING DIVISION doesnt profit from blu-ray, they profit off software sales, and hardware sales, the PS3 is still costing them lots, if software sales dont increase significantly and if we dont see the PSP sales double(same with ps2) its not even going to make as much as microsoft profit wise.

Well it is at 10% since the introduction of HD formats...

 



FinalEvangelion said:
Aj_habfan said:
Yea, we knew that a year ago. But the PS3 did so horribly last year, that making a recovery this gen is more of the new mesure of success. We can't just ignore any accomplishment the PS3 has made and say, "It was in first last gen, nothing else matters."

 

+1.  This thread is rationalization at it's best.  Halo was not the final nail in the coffin for the PS3 and MGS4 launched much better than expected.

 

I could find reasons the other consoles failed -

 

Microsoft - Going to most likely end up 3rd this gen instead of 2nd.  They still are not getting the attention of Japan and Mainland Europe very well.

 

Nintendo - While having much better success than the PS2 did at this point in hardware sales, third parties still aren't giving the same attention as they did to the PS2, as evidenced by all the "Boycott Ubisoft" sigs in Wii Fanboys' sigs.

 

 

Give me a break please... just look at your signature. Calling other people fanboys for the something you are doing, very intelligent.



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sounds like an excuse from a xboxfanboy.

Yes we all know Sony will not dominate like they did last time.
Going into this generation everyone knew that.
So lets say sony loss only 1% of its share to MS then you would consider it a loss for Sony and a win for MS?

its a new generation, and a new race.

If a runner ran the mile in 4min and everyone else ran it in 6min, he wins.
If that runner ran the next race in 4min30secs and everyone else ran it in 5min
Who won?

The runner who ran it in 4min30secs even tho he ran slower the 2nd time and everyone else ran it faster.



 

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