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johnsobas on 22 June 2008

also, japan's population is 127 million and its shrinking, not 178 million.



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yushire on 22 June 2008

75,000 sales in its first week LOL this will be good.



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E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

jake_the_fake1 on 22 June 2008
Soriku said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Soriku said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Soriku said:
kingofwale said:
yushire said:
YOU AGAIN... I said compete not surpass, of course we cant expect this game to be 400,000 in one week but atleast this game can compete in terms of chart sales in Japan.

 

I wouldn't consider 120K that ToS2 will likely pull in with close to 500K.

 

now, WOULD YOU?

 

and yes, I'm being EXTREMELY generous here.


Uh...retailer preorders are 200k.

@jake

They're using the same engine as the GC but powered it all up for the Wii which is why you see a significant graphical enhancement. Anyway, it's being made by most Team Symhponia members (along with new members) so you know it's gonna be good. The people overlooking the game are Team Symhponia members.

OT: lol no. Unless MGS4 drops significantly this week in Japan I doubt it. I see DotNW beating out ToS GC sales in Japan (320k according to VGC). With legs it might reach 400k. Maybe even 500k if lucky. If MGS4 somehow drops in sales sharply then we can say ToS came CLOSE to reaching MGS4's numbers but I doubt that'll happen.

Interesting, link me up.

 

Hmm...I can't seem to find a proper link but if you've been keepign up with news (like I have) then you'd know this. You can even search on Google and other message boards/forums/comment areas are sayin the same thing.

I have not come across any article that says they've reworked the graphics engine, all I've read was that they will be using the same assets and graphics engine as the previous game but of course will have new story elements, although if they have changed things and I have some how missed that article, then I would like to read up on it.

Now I won't be able to find the same article you read because I don't know what the article even looked like, let alone what websites you visit in order to narrow down the search. So if you could provide me the link to the article you read, once you've found it of course, then I'll be more inclined to believe that ToS2 will have an improved graphics engine from the previous game.

 

 

Umm...OK, I'll TRY to find it but I know that's what I read. I wouldn't be wrong on Tales of Symhponia...would I? :P

 

thanks :)



jake_the_fake1 on 22 June 2008
sc94597 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Soriku said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Soriku said:
kingofwale said:
yushire said:
YOU AGAIN... I said compete not surpass, of course we cant expect this game to be 400,000 in one week but atleast this game can compete in terms of chart sales in Japan.

 

I wouldn't consider 120K that ToS2 will likely pull in with close to 500K.

 

now, WOULD YOU?

 

and yes, I'm being EXTREMELY generous here.


Uh...retailer preorders are 200k.

@jake

They're using the same engine as the GC but powered it all up for the Wii which is why you see a significant graphical enhancement. Anyway, it's being made by most Team Symhponia members (along with new members) so you know it's gonna be good. The people overlooking the game are Team Symhponia members.

OT: lol no. Unless MGS4 drops significantly this week in Japan I doubt it. I see DotNW beating out ToS GC sales in Japan (320k according to VGC). With legs it might reach 400k. Maybe even 500k if lucky. If MGS4 somehow drops in sales sharply then we can say ToS came CLOSE to reaching MGS4's numbers but I doubt that'll happen.

Interesting, link me up.

 

Hmm...I can't seem to find a proper link but if you've been keepign up with news (like I have) then you'd know this. You can even search on Google and other message boards/forums/comment areas are sayin the same thing.

I have not come across any article that says they've reworked the graphics engine, all I've read was that they will be using the same assets and graphics engine as the previous game but of course will have new story elements, although if they have changed things and I have some how missed that article, then I would like to read up on it.

Now I won't be able to find the same article you read because I don't know what the article even looked like, let alone what websites you visit in order to narrow down the search. So if you could provide me the link to the article you read, once you've found it of course, then I'll be more inclined to believe that ToS2 will have an improved graphics engine from the previous game.

 

Why does it matter? First of all the game is cel-shaded, and doesn't need high quality graphics to look nice. Secondly there is no correlation between graphics and sales in japan so it's not relevant in this thread. And thirdly you could clearly see an upgrade if you look at screens of both games. Example being these two screens.

Tos2

See More Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World Various at IGN.com

Tos

See More Tales of Symphonia Various at IGN.com

 

 

it matters to me because I must feed my curiosity :)



yushire on 22 June 2008
johnsobas said:
also, japan's population is 127 million and its shrinking, not 178 million

 

Sorry for the mistake so its 127 million. So Japan wasnt that populated as I thought.

 

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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Daileon on 22 June 2008

Short answer: no.



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yushire on 22 June 2008
Daileon said:
Short answer: no.

Of course it is, I knew it all along. Its just soriku convinced that its customer preorder rather than retailer preorder. Just check this thread:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=29019

 

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

ROBOTECHHEAVEN on 22 June 2008

i think tos 2 will sell around 250k in the 1st week and lifetime sales in japan of 1.5 million.



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Torillian on 22 June 2008

1.5 million....you expect TOS2 to do almost 5 times the lifetime sales of the previous installment....I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment dude.



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yushire on 22 June 2008

Since when? sorry but this thread is over end of discussion. I'll expect TOS 2 to be in 75,000-100,000 but Im generous on this one. 200,000 in a month 300,000 in its lifetime in Japan.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg