@FJ-Warez

I think you are right.

With enough time and money I think one could squeeze more out of the ps3 than a 360 but as things stand now with the wii taking over market place and less money being pumped in to the HD(not to mention PS3 being at the bottom of that pile for at least another 2 years), we won't see much difference between the 2 consoles.

There are PS3 games that turn out as good if not little better than 360. However I believe people had the misconception that PS3 is a LOT more powerful than the 360 when it came out and I don't think this will be the case this generation.

Like statements that Uncharted is using 30% of the cell processor from naughty dog make me laugh now...

I'm not saying it is not using 30%...it may well be using 30% of the cell, while also using 100% of the available ram, video card processing and bus lines on the motherboard.

 So that is why developers have been putting their best efforts on Wii. I mean its surpassed both the 360 and PS3 in sales....

Do you understand the porting process at all?  Games developed on, and for the PS3 hardware all run very well.  Look at Resistance and CoD4, these games were made for the PS3 from the ground up.  They did not take 360/PC code and port it to the PS3.  The PS3 is very difficult to port games on not only because of the Cell architecture, but also because of OpenGL.  You cant just port DirectX games directly to OpenGL.  Some companies are starting to get it, look at Burnout Paradise and GTA4.  Both games are either equals, or near equals, and we are starting to see this more and more now that the PS3 has been on the market for 1.5 years.  Sony has been updating developer kits/tools, and developing game engines (PhyreEngine) for all to use.  Its getting better.

Valve did not port Orange Box, and Quake Wars was not ported by the same company that ported the PC version to  360.  Ubisoft Montreal, well, I dont know what the hell is wrong with them, other than they have had tons of problems with the UT engine on PS3.  Most of the games you listed had tons of other problems, ie bad story, poor mechanics, or re-hashed sequel.  The PS3 is fine, and when developers take the time to know the hardware, it is capable of the same visuals as the 360.  Frankly, I hope we are seeing an end of the FPS era and studios will start to diversify their products.    

It's simple.

PS3 needs VERY optimized code to look good.

Therefore games made first on 360 & PC are going to looke worse unless you throw a lot of effort into customizing the code.

That's why plenty of developers suggest you build for PS3 then port to 360... because the 360 runs all code very well instead of needing a demanding specialized code like the PS3.

However, as such. Expect any PC first franchise to likely suck on PS3 or at least be worse on PS3 then 360... since the console ports are more of just an afterthought to get a little more cash  

Pretty much, though some competent companies like Bethesda will take their time to develop the PS3 version right even if the game is a PC game. Oblivion was an excellent port and I'll be expecting Fallout to be great as well.

Also, is this game using UE3? If it does that kind of explains it a little bit but also raises another question, since I thought the UE3 problems with the PS3 were over since Sony worked with Epic to optimize it (and also to release UT3).

@ FileBrasileiro )

no it doesn't use UE3 - where did you get that false impression ?

Quake is an id franchise (they produce engines themselves .. hell, they were the pioneers in engine developement long before Epic came around) and they clearly won't use an Epic engine. It uses the id tech4 engine.

Exactly. Direct PC ports will never be as good as code written ground up for the CBE architecture of the PS3.

Unless a PC port is coded specifically for the PS3 (like CoD4 and Oblivion), I really don't even see the point in buying it over the 360 or preferably PC version (if you have a half decent rig that outperforms the 360), unless you are restricted to gaming solely on the PS3.  

But ports in general are very bad examples on the "underwhelming performance" of the PS3. I would like to see Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GT5 or MGS4 play the same on a 360 for a reverse angle comparison, but never will since they are only on PS3. 

Games that matter more : GTA IV, COD 4, Devil may Cry 4, Burnout Paradise City and Assassins Creed. All superior versions on the PS3.