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@HS: It could be. Although, i'd go with user generated content with Chadius. Possibly combining both. As always, there are already a lot of user generated content, which is mostly being unnoticed, since nobody is making money with it. The mods are large being unnoticed on PC (as industrywise), in Eledees you could share your own levels, Brawl has the level editor and didn't Nintendo even distribute the "level of the month/week"? So, it could be, that distributing and charging for user generated content would be the next disruption. And as you brought out the MMO, it could be that the world would consist of only user generated sections, which all would have their own rules etc. Kind of like Animal Crossing with its villages, but an MMO without a pre set world. @TheSource: The problem with PSX is, that Sony itself did very little to what you are suggesting. Since the only Sony games that i can think of, that fit the categories, are the 2 Gran Turismos. At that time the industry was heavily moving towards cinematic games, along with the about to be exploded european market. Sony had the cheap media, low quality standards and easy to pirate platform, along with familiar brand and good retail connections.



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I think the only one who can really disrupt Nintendo in terms of gaming is..... well, Nintendo.

A disruptive company is well aware about disruption, so they should be working on new kinds of experiences the Wii can't offer.

The NES was being disrupted by the Game Boy



SOme people are confused on what disruption means. You don't disrupt a company, you disrupt a way something works. Nintendo disrupted the traditional gaming with the wii and the ds. Nintendo can be defeated, but so far nobody other than nintendo in the gaming market have disrupted it.



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That's kind of hard to claim, from what I remembered Famicom was the dominant company with the G&W, NES and SNES in Japan but were rooted in Japan pretty easily by Sony... of course Sony was pretty popular in Japan then anyway. Should Nintendo make their claim in China history would say a company similar to Sony in popularity ie. UF Software or Scrum(French) could within one blow claim the market lead in China.

Theirs a bit more to it of course then - for example the demographic for software: Look back at what was bundled with the PS1 and the Wii, (I'm sure we all know about the sport package similarity between the Wii and Nes.) But if memory serves the PS1 came packaged with a demo - that gave exposure to what the PS1 was about:

The point was diversity, granted only Pa-Rappa was cool (I know, I know) that marked what you could expect aside from what you probably already knew about that platform.
The Wii pretty much did the same thing, using Wii Sports to say this is what you just bought we hope you like it. From there it was a well orchestrated snow ball effect of software, they were almost like value meals, a single game would have several games on it - if it was fun then so be it.

Shigeru did note that he wanted to make a controller that uses one button so yes the simplified controller has always been at the top of their list, but this single button thing (Your category F) falls under the Wiisports category. Your Category C also falls under Wii sports (I understood it as that group wanted simplified gaming.) Your Group D is what is known or part of it is known as Core Gamers, but that could mean that your Group E would be the ones that require also visual realism?

So to make a summary the only group not being targeted would F...

If what ‘Sean Malstrom’ said is true you need to take into account what is high and low teir at the start of the disruption. Your graph is kind of weird because it claims that as the years go by the market went from Niche to Everyone – I’m concluding the perception being that because of the over all amount of people buying video games had increased during the PS2 era; that over time games were moving away from niche. To counter that I’d (yes counter) claim that people with the same likes and dislikes fall within the same niche, pursuing something else within the gaming industry (niche in itself) to like is development of another niche, universe of gaming became larger but what if it became larger with a specific one of those niche’s not several others. (High tier)

To expand on that I believe your saying that realism was what everyone wanted or closer to it. If your graph is suggesting that Group E is a composition of people from all the prior groups since group B&C were trying to convince group D(E) to join in on the fun.

(Unless it’s just saying; that group was the group that was mainstream at that time.)

No the point of the thread was could Nintendo be disrupted.

Answer of course they can be disrupted, think what do people do normally (people with money) that you can toss a console into without interfering with what is in the environment (or replacing something else), some people have said proper eating which is a good one actually, depending on the interface and the goal of the software involved.

Can you imagine having fun while eating at a table with some video game with your family (The chair or some fork or maybe a single pressure pad could be the interface.)

Also group A is the arcade gaming group?

Either way if my interpretation was correct, all those groups have been receiving proper attention. I conclude that map of gaming is going to just get bigger and bigger, as time goes on and more things start getting in the way to…. Wait I think all of the above minus the 3rd and 4th paragraphs were baseless now as I am certain I don’t understand that graph…


Finally – Sony and Microsoft are going to have a hard time competing with Nintendo, also Sony’s PS3 market isn’t shrinking it’s expanding… at least everywhere but Japan. Nintendo’s Wii is just out there right now. Microsoft is still new to a very complex market but their not doing badly at all considering their competition.

To Disrupt Nintendo is to not compete with them directly – what do you think Sony/Microsoft are doing… but their doing it from high tier down… theirs something else aside from disruption going on… I’ll end here.

For the record this was longer, I condensed it – I’m just hoping it makes sense.



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sc94597 said:
SOme people are confused on what disruption means. You don't disrupt a company, you disrupt a way something works. Nintendo disrupted the traditional gaming with the wii and the ds. Nintendo can be defeated, but so far nobody other than nintendo in the gaming market have disrupted it.

That's true. But you can disrupt the way how some company works, especially when some company stands as "the industry", or otherwise drives the market in the way it's going. More familiar term for disruption would be challenging the old businessmodels.

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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

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Well I think that Nintendo will win this gen and next-gen, but I think that Sony will win next-next-gen, reason:

Nintendo won 2 gens with the NES and the SNES,
Then Sony came and won 2 gens with the PS and PS2,
now Nintendo is winning again and I believe that they will also win next-gen before Sony comes back and wins the next 2 gens again.



You can talk about technology all you want, but it's leadership that counts.

Nintendo has Miyamoto and Iwata. Apple has Steve Jobs, but I don't really know if he has the wherewithal to build a software publishing company from scratch to rival Nintendo.

I really don't see anyone right now with the kind of leadership necessary to topple Nintendo right now. Maybe if Miyamoto retires, who knows.

I think someone new and not tainted by the game industry can make some inroads. I think there is just too much group think in the current leaders, so this person is probably going to have come from another business and be a ball buster.



MontanaHatchet said:
Ahh, "defeatist", that was the term I was looking for! It's so pitiful, it actually pisses me off quite a bit. Leo-J was really annoying me with it.

And I say that the only way Nintendo can be stopped is the route that has worked against every console leader so far: A generation or two from now, they won't be considered hip anymore, and whoever makes the console that is the most successful in Japan will win.

The bitterness is the annoying part.  Who cares if your console isn't selling well?  It's gonna have games soon.



MontanaHatchet said:
Ahh, "defeatist", that was the term I was looking for! It's so pitiful, it actually pisses me off quite a bit. Leo-J was really annoying me with it.

And I say that the only way Nintendo can be stopped is the route that has worked against every console leader so far: A generation or two from now, they won't be considered hip anymore, and whoever makes the console that is the most successful in Japan will win.

Exactly.

However, if you ask some PS3 fans on this site, the PS3 is set to win this generation and will be ahead in less than 3 years.



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