I'd love to talk Kyoto with you, either here or on the global warming thread.  Since we are here I will respond briefly.

1. Kyoto is a horrible treaty that, even if implemented, would have little effect at best on global temperatures.

2. This is because most of the increase in pollution in future years is coming from developing countries, especially China and India...the very countries that are exempted from pollution controls under Kyoto!

3. Europeans are especially hypocritical on this issue because they bemoan the U.S. for stating the obvious (Kyoto would do little to nothing on global warming and have a huge economic cost) while quietly failing to meet their own emissions levels promised under Kyoto.

This is probably better discussed in the other topic, however. 

1. Not even close to 100% of income taxes go to pay the national debt.  IIRC it's about 20% or 25% currently.

2. Go ahead and try not paying your income taxes and see if the courts don't allow you to be imprisoned. 

Your arguments care little about logic or facts.  

1. Kyoto, if implemented, does reduce CO2. If the reduction is not enough, which indeed it isn't, then we need more reduction.

2.  The CO2 emmission per capita was 3.2 metric tons for China and 1.19 for India in 2003 (most recent figures). It was 19.8 for the USA. It was not unreasonable to exempt developing countries that now pollute 5 to 15 times LESS than the USA, but these countries will be included in the next treaty.

3. Europeans bemoan the US for being the world's biggest polluter and contributor to global warming yet  refusing to participate in the effort to avert a global disaster. This is pure freeloading behaviour, and discourages the whole world from making a big effort.  The USA 's CO2 emmission per capita is more than DOUBLE the EU average. In the ranking of economies by CO2 efficiency (GDP / emmission) the top 8 countries are all European while the USA ranks 39th with a ratio of 2.1 compared to a EU average of 3.8 . 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ratio_of_GDP_to_carbon_dioxide_emissions 

Firstly, do not cite Wikipedia as supportive of facts.  It often fails in that regard.

1. If implemented, Kyoto would reduce CO2 levels by a whopping 5.2%:

"Even if the Protocol were implemented by all parties to the Kyoto conference, it would result in a just a 5.2% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions below 1990 levels, reducing anthropogenic emissions from around 7.2 billions tons per year to about 6.8 billion tons per year. From an environmental standpoint, this agreement falls woefully short of measures needed to head off the warming of the earth."

http://www.whrc.org/resources/online_publications/warming_earth/kyoto.htm

Of course, this is because China and India and other developing countires are unaffected.  Kyoto is flawed because of that.  If we want an agreement, we should go back to the drawing board and include all countries, since pollution in China is still pollution.

2. This doesn't matter in the least since the U.S. will not be increasing its pollution output significantly in the near future, but China and India will.

3. Europeans committed to Kyoto pollution-reduction levels and haven't met them, simple as that.  The U.S., more honestly, didn't agree to a reduction and then just ignore the promise when the going got tough.

The bottom line is that Kyoto is a deeply flawed agreement that will never be agreed to by the U.S.  Since the U.S. is essential to include in any agreement on this subject to have a real effect, going back to the drawing board and scrapping Kyoto is the logical option. 

It may fall short but at least its a start. Thats like saying " Ive been smoking for 10 years, why stop now...the damage is done." It still helps regardless. Waiting for everyone to adopt the same thing is not how to make change. We need to lead by example and convince the other countries over time that change is good.

I've got to disagree. It's more like saying you will go back to your smoking level of two years ago, but your colleagues all then increase their pack-a-day smoking by a factor of five, and then saying that you have done something about the smoke being emitted.

The elections are just like the key club back in high school. The popular and dumb will get picked & the rest of the population will get screwed like always . Theyre all a bunch of airheads to me... we havent had a good candidate or good president since... the Roosevelt's.