| elprincipe said: 1. Kyoto is a horrible treaty that, even if implemented, would have little effect at best on global temperatures. 2. This is because most of the increase in pollution in future years is coming from developing countries, especially China and India...the very countries that are exempted from pollution controls under Kyoto! 3. Europeans are especially hypocritical on this issue because they bemoan the U.S. for stating the obvious (Kyoto would do little to nothing on global warming and have a huge economic cost) while quietly failing to meet their own emissions levels promised under Kyoto. This is probably better discussed in the other topic, however. |
Your arguments care little about logic or facts.
1. Kyoto, if implemented, does reduce CO2. If the reduction is not enough, which indeed it isn't, then we need more reduction.
2. The CO2 emmission per capita was 3.2 metric tons for China and 1.19 for India in 2003 (most recent figures). It was 19.8 for the USA. It was not unreasonable to exempt developing countries that now pollute 5 to 15 times LESS than the USA, but these countries will be included in the next treaty.
3. Europeans bemoan the US for being the world's biggest polluter and contributor to global warming yet refusing to participate in the effort to avert a global disaster. This is pure freeloading behaviour, and discourages the whole world from making a big effort. The USA 's CO2 emmission per capita is more than DOUBLE the EU average. In the ranking of economies by CO2 efficiency (GDP / emmission) the top 8 countries are all European while the USA ranks 39th with a ratio of 2.1 compared to a EU average of 3.8 .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ratio_of_GDP_to_carbon_dioxide_emissions
