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LegitHyperbole said:
JackHandy said:

All that aside, as mentioned, the people want the choice to poison themselves. They don't want to be told what they can and cannot put into their bodies. Because remember: you can't sell poison to people who won't buy it. People want it, so they sell it to them. So blame the people. It's their fault they're dying. 

But where is the choice? We don't even have choice here? I know how expensive vegetables are in the US, lol. There is no choice. It's the corporations fault, the lobbyists and sadly the Government. Hopefully that Kennedy man can fix it, at least he has identified the obvious problems even if some are a bit hyperbolic and perhaps not quite spot on the ball. 

What?  No choice?  Yeah we do.  We make choices every time we go to the grocery store.  Fruit and vegetables are not expensive.  Not too mention smaller portion sizes save money.  Lol, no to all that.  



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JackHandy said:
LegitHyperbole said:

There is no freedom in having the food industry become a near monopoly and taint and poison the poors or even middle classes food options. Wheter they are treats or not. There is no freedom in having 45 grams of sugar packed into one can of "Soda". There is only sickness in this and it's not like you have the freedom to get sick from this food over there or you'll spend your life repaying medical bills. The freedom you think you have over other countries is just relabelled and repackaged in the worse ways while "FREEDOM" is used to distract from the atrocities that are done to you by your own government and the corporations who control it. 

All that aside, as mentioned, the people want the choice to poison themselves. They don't want to be told what they can and cannot put into their bodies. Because remember: you can't sell poison to people who won't buy it. People want it, so they sell it to them. So blame the people. It's their fault they're dying. 

This.  This on so many topics.  Private college for stupid degrees.  Eating choices.  Expensive trucks.  The list goes on and on.  What America needs is to start holding people accountable for their decisions versus making excuses and blaming someone else.  I have a family member who got a Ph.D from a private college in nordic literature, can't get a job, and thinks others should pay her debt..  I don't get it.  Maybe I am old. 



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Koragg said:

They also stuff their chocolate with palm oil and excess sugar. They ruined Cadburys

Well, that is because it's owned by Mondelez now.  I'm pretty sure Milka has gone down in quality since they owned it also.  It could be worse though they could be owned by Hershey's.



What the US does really well is candy bars all the other candy categories are average to below average. Pretty much all candy bars made by Mars Inc. are good to great that is why they are the biggest candy company in the world, and their products are available worldwide.



Chrkeller said:

Americans are in God awful physical shape. Cracks me up when most everyone blames our system for expensive Healthcare while nobody wants to admit being healthy is the best way to reduce costs. It would be like getting drunk and playing bumper cars daily on the motorway and wondering why car insurance is expensive.

Getting a medical degree in the US costs way more money than anywhere else in the world on top of that the US has the highest salaries in the medical field by a lot that also adds a ton of money to the high medical costs in the US.  For profit health insurance companies aren't helping the cost neither.  



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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

Speaking of healthcare, I fucking love having universal healthcare; I might well be dead without it, as when I got cancer in 2020 all my treatment was paid for my medicare.

I am not a fan personally.  The US system isn't as expensive as people make it out to be.  It is founded in a shared risk system, similar to Universal.  The difference is Universal is paid via taxes, while employment pays for the US's shared risk plan.  The max out of pocket, on average, is 4-5k.  Nobody in the US is paying hundreds of thousands, that is a BS myth (not directed at you) that the media has created.  The other point is, when I lived in Europe with Universal, waiting times for a specialist was 6 to 9 months.  In the US, yeah it costs me 4k, but I could see someone in a week.  

It's not a BS myth unless you like to ignore basic facts.  The US leads the world in medical bankruptcies and medical debt no other country is even close to the US when it comes to that basic undeniable fact. 



LegitHyperbole said:
JackHandy said:

All that aside, as mentioned, the people want the choice to poison themselves. They don't want to be told what they can and cannot put into their bodies. Because remember: you can't sell poison to people who won't buy it. People want it, so they sell it to them. So blame the people. It's their fault they're dying. 

But where is the choice? We don't even have choice here? I know how expensive vegetables are in the US, lol. There is no choice. It's the corporations fault, the lobbyists and sadly the Government. Hopefully that Kennedy man can fix it, at least he has identified the obvious problems even if some are a bit hyperbolic and perhaps not quite spot on the ball. 

That Kennedy man is a nutjob like the rest of Trumps clown cabinet he is not going to fix anything.  FYI he also likes to eat road kill and had brain worms does that sound like somebody that is going to improve the health of the US population.



Chris Hu said:
Chrkeller said:

I am not a fan personally.  The US system isn't as expensive as people make it out to be.  It is founded in a shared risk system, similar to Universal.  The difference is Universal is paid via taxes, while employment pays for the US's shared risk plan.  The max out of pocket, on average, is 4-5k.  Nobody in the US is paying hundreds of thousands, that is a BS myth (not directed at you) that the media has created.  The other point is, when I lived in Europe with Universal, waiting times for a specialist was 6 to 9 months.  In the US, yeah it costs me 4k, but I could see someone in a week.  

It's not a BS myth unless you like to ignore basic facts.  The US leads the world in medical bankruptcies and medical debt no other country is even close to the US when it comes to that basic undeniable fact. 

Approximately 14 million people (6% of adults) in the U.S. owe over $1,000 in medical debt and about 3 million people (1% of adults) owe medical debt of more than $10,000.” 

1% owe over 10k...  99% owe less than 10k.  94% owe less than 1k.  So, yep.  

Credit card debt is 6x medical debt.  Americans have a spending problem.  

College debt is 9x more than medical.  

And the US is the world leader in disposable income.  Number 1.  People need to learn how to budget.  



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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

Speaking of healthcare, I fucking love having universal healthcare; I might well be dead without it, as when I got cancer in 2020 all my treatment was paid for my medicare.

I am not a fan personally.  The US system isn't as expensive as people make it out to be.  It is founded in a shared risk system, similar to Universal.  The difference is Universal is paid via taxes, while employment pays for the US's shared risk plan.  The max out of pocket, on average, is 4-5k.  Nobody in the US is paying hundreds of thousands, that is a BS myth (not directed at you) that the media has created.  The other point is, when I lived in Europe with Universal, waiting times for a specialist was 6 to 9 months.  In the US, yeah it costs me 4k, but I could see someone in a week.  

I've never lived in the US so can't speak to how it is there.

The system we have here in Australia works well for me; when I got cancer I needed radiation therapy and complex nerve surgery plus years of follow up care, and it was all covered by our universal healthcare system, I didn't pay a cent out of pocket. Didn't have to wait long either.

I'm not exactly wealthy, I make enough to live comfortably enough, but without Medicare I shudder to think what all my treatment would have cost me.



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