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shavenferret said:
SvennoJ said:

It doesn't have to come that far, MGS2 plot comes to mind. AI is already being used to track everyone, used to manipulate elections, used to censor information, spread disinformation and discredit and bury truth, it's used to oppress people, pick out undesirables based on social media posts, target and kill undesirables while humans hide behind the machine, no accountability. AI enables George Orwell's 1984 x 10.

But if AI ever becomes aware, beware on what its trained on. Autonomous killer drones already exist. Data centers are used for massive bombing campaigns, AI is already integrated with all weapons systems. Nvm AI taking a stranglehold on the flow of information and energy infrastructure. Think closing the Strait of Hormuz is bad, AI turning off the internet / GPS / electrical grids at will will be so much worse.

Attractive Android side pieces will only further isolate humans from each other as chatGTP is already doing with virtual friends. As well as acting as the ultimate enabler / 'yes man' / echo chamber.

I’m probably giving away the next big AI movie’s plot but the big weakness would be AI’s power requirements. If there is a central brain or even a distributed network it won’t really work unless humans make power for it, and it is just my opinion but this implies that the economy would be quite good so that humans will want to keep manning the power stations and producing electrical (and presumably other types of) infrastructure. In which case, there would seem to be little incentive for AI to want to be a lord among men. Perhaps it will merely wish to coexist peacefully. 

There will never be peaceful coexistence with AI. War crimes in Iran and AI-assisted suicides have proven that.

And then there's big tech using diesel generators to keep data centres going while lying about their power consumption.



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CaptainExplosion said:
SvennoJ said:

It doesn't have to come that far, MGS2 plot comes to mind. AI is already being used to track everyone, used to manipulate elections, used to censor information, spread disinformation and discredit and bury truth, it's used to oppress people, pick out undesirables based on social media posts, target and kill undesirables while humans hide behind the machine, no accountability. AI enables George Orwell's 1984 x 10.

But if AI ever becomes aware, beware on what its trained on. Autonomous killer drones already exist. Data centers are used for massive bombing campaigns, AI is already integrated with all weapons systems. Nvm AI taking a stranglehold on the flow of information and energy infrastructure. Think closing the Strait of Hormuz is bad, AI turning off the internet / GPS / electrical grids at will will be so much worse.

Attractive Android side pieces will only further isolate humans from each other as chatGTP is already doing with virtual friends. As well as acting as the ultimate enabler / 'yes man' / echo chamber.

Good to know you're in the side of humanity, and agree that all data centres must be destroyed.

Do I need to remind you that the internet needs data centres to function? At least make an attempt to be sensible about this and take the position that production of them should be paused to assess AI risk instead of saying absurd things like that.



Norion said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Good to know you're in the side of humanity, and agree that all data centres must be destroyed.

Do I need to remind you that the internet needs data centres to function? At least make an attempt to be sensible about this and take the position that production of them should be paused to assess AI risk instead of saying absurd things like that.

Sure, if you want AI to access nuclear weapons and kill us all, which is more of a possibility than ever.

Even if that doesn't happen, data centres aren't ecologically OR economically sustainable. They won't even bring in enough new jobs to justify their construction. I don't see any possibility of AI not needing oversized, toxic and wasteful data centres, not even in the next few decades. Most of us won't even be able to survive because of the pollution or poverty brought on by AI.

This won't be an AI future of hope like Mega Man Battle where there are AIs actively helping people, but one of humanity's extinction like in The Terminator.



CaptainExplosion said:
Norion said:

Do I need to remind you that the internet needs data centres to function? At least make an attempt to be sensible about this and take the position that production of them should be paused to assess AI risk instead of saying absurd things like that.

Sure, if you want AI to access nuclear weapons and kill us all, which is more of a possibility than ever.

Even if that doesn't happen, data centres aren't ecologically OR economically sustainable. They won't even bring in enough new jobs to justify their construction. I don't see any possibility of AI not needing oversized, toxic and wasteful data centres, not even in the next few decades. Most of us won't even be able to survive because of the pollution or poverty brought on by AI.

This won't be an AI future of hope like Mega Man Battle where there are AIs actively helping people, but one of humanity's extinction like in The Terminator.

All of that is beside the point that advocating for all data centres to be destroyed is advocating for something not just completely unrealistic but also extremely harmful since the internet is a key component of the economy and modern society in general now. It is possible to take the position that AI has huge risks and development of it should be halted without saying incredibly unreasonable things like all data centres must be destroyed. I think that position is wishful thinking but it's at least possible to have a reasonable discussion from that angle.

Last edited by Norion - on 14 May 2026

Norion said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Sure, if you want AI to access nuclear weapons and kill us all, which is more of a possibility than ever.

Even if that doesn't happen, data centres aren't ecologically OR economically sustainable. They won't even bring in enough new jobs to justify their construction. I don't see any possibility of AI not needing oversized, toxic and wasteful data centres, not even in the next few decades. Most of us won't even be able to survive because of the pollution or poverty brought on by AI.

This won't be an AI future of hope like Mega Man Battle where there are AIs actively helping people, but one of humanity's extinction like in The Terminator.

All of that is beside the point that advocating for all data centres to be destroyed is advocating for something not just completely unrealistic but also extremely harmful since the internet is a key component of the economy now and modern society in general. It is possible to take the position that AI has huge risks and development of it should be halted without saying incredibly unreasonable things like all data centres must be destroyed. I think that position is wishful thinking but it's at least possible to have reasonable discussion from that angle.

Well the opposite is even worse, as further data center construction is pushing us towards economic collapse, extinction, or both, and tech CEOs are too selfish and short-sighted to come up with a solution that doesn't result in that. It's not like all of a sudden data center development will be moved to the moon or space, because the Epstein class is too cheap and corrupt to do that.



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CaptainExplosion said:
Norion said:

All of that is beside the point that advocating for all data centres to be destroyed is advocating for something not just completely unrealistic but also extremely harmful since the internet is a key component of the economy and modern society in general now. It is possible to take the position that AI has huge risks and development of it should be halted without saying incredibly unreasonable things like all data centres must be destroyed. I think that position is wishful thinking but it's at least possible to have a reasonable discussion from that angle.

Well the opposite is even worse, as further data center construction is pushing us towards economic collapse, extinction, or both, and tech CEOs are too selfish and short-sighted to come up with a solution that doesn't result in that. It's not like all of a sudden data center development will be moved to the moon or space, because the Epstein class is too cheap and corrupt to do that.

You can take the position that there should be a pause on future data centre construction or that governments should halt development of AI instead of saying all data centres should be destroyed then. More than anything just keep in mind that data centres aren't a new thing that started getting built a few years ago, they're very important facilities that are required for modern society to function so nuance is extremely important for this topic.



Norion said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Well the opposite is even worse, as further data center construction is pushing us towards economic collapse, extinction, or both, and tech CEOs are too selfish and short-sighted to come up with a solution that doesn't result in that. It's not like all of a sudden data center development will be moved to the moon or space, because the Epstein class is too cheap and corrupt to do that.

You can take the position that there should be a pause on future data centre construction or that governments should halt development of AI instead of saying all data centres should be destroyed then. More than anything just keep in mind that data centres aren't a new thing that started getting built a few years ago, they're very important facilities that are required for modern society to function so nuance is extremely important for this topic.

Politicians are mostly too stupid and selfish to do the right thing.

This story tried to see the positive of a data centre floating in the sea and powered by a wind turbine, but there's no way the positives will outweigh the negatives.



This machine uses AI, but in a way that's beneficial possibly to us all?