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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

Sharing a kiss and a someone stealing a pen of a boy she likes and touching herself with it..  yeah, I don't think those are remotely the same thing.  

The adult nature of it doesn't bother me.  The game taking place in a high school, which is (factually) 75-90% minors is the problem.  At least here in the States, high school has a hand full of legal adults, the overwhelming majority are not adults.

I have daughters in high school, they are minors.  Same with my niece.  Highschool = kids (here in the States)  

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This isn't censorship.  This is google making a business decision.  Censorship is government banning of material.  A company making business decisions is absolutely not censorship.  

If simply referring to teen sex is too far for you, you'd have to ban everything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to American Pie. 

Teen sex has been alluded to in countless games, shows, and movies for decades.

American Pie has aged poorly.  They spy on a girl in high school which is sexual assault and child porn because they broadcasted it.  



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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

If simply referring to teen sex is too far for you, you'd have to ban everything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to American Pie. 

Teen sex has been alluded to in countless games, shows, and movies for decades.

American Pie has aged poorly.  They spy on a girl in high school which is sexual assault and child porn because they broadcasted it.  

I never said it was wholesome by modern standards. But if you'd ban it, would you also ban Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Pretty Little Liars? Gossip Girl? The OC?

Teenagers having sex is not this shocking new taboo subject, it's been mainstream in media for decades.

 



Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

I didn't say sex, I said sexuality. Sexuality is not limited to the physical act of intercourse, it encompasses everything from who we are attracted to romance. Ellie and Riley share a romantic interlude and kiss. This is an exploration of sexuality.

Steam, Playstation, Xbox, even the infamously conservative Nintendo have had no issue hosting this game for years. Even Google themselves approved it, and hosted it for months before taking it down recently. It has been reviewed and rated by all the relevant organizations in charge of making sure content is appropriate for public consumption. 

The game does not show minors engaging in sex. Also, many high schoolers are technically adults; when I was in Year 12, the large majority of my classmates were 18.

Sharing a kiss and a someone stealing a pen of a boy she likes and touching herself with it..  yeah, I don't think those are remotely the same thing.  

The adult nature of it doesn't bother me.  The game taking place in a high school, which is (factually) 75-90% minors is the problem.  At least here in the States, high school has a hand full of legal adults, the overwhelming majority are not adults.

I have daughters in high school, they are minors.  Same with my niece.  Highschool = kids (here in the States)  

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This isn't censorship.  This is google making a business decision.  Censorship is government banning of material.  A company making business decisions is absolutely not censorship.  

For someone who hasn't played the game, you have a very strong opinion about it. And that obviously makes you be so, so wrong.

The pen thing (which doesn't even show anything graphic by the way, you don't even see the pen. It's just a generic static picture of the girl in question, completely dressed, talking about it) is supposed to be creepy, unsettling and repulsive, not exciting or something along those lines.

Spoiler!

The girl in question (Yuri) has had its personality altered by another character (Monika) in order to make her do some really messed up stuff in order to make the player character be repulsed by her and make him interested in Monika instead. Other messed up stuff that she makes her do is cut herself with a knife, for example.

Monika does this with other characters as well... and it's just that: make them disturbing and unlikeable to scare the player. Another example is Natsuki: Monika makes her behave in all sorts of messed up ways, often involving visual glitches and scary visual elements to provoke jumpscares and such. She also amplifies certain aspects of her personality, like exagerating how she is beaten up by his father or him not feeding her properly.

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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

American Pie has aged poorly.  They spy on a girl in high school which is sexual assault and child porn because they broadcasted it.  

I never said it was wholesome by modern standards. But if you'd ban it, would you also ban Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Pretty Little Liars? Gossip Girl? The OC?

Teenagers having sex is not this shocking new taboo subject, it's been mainstream in media for decades.

 

If I owned a storefront, yes I would weigh cost of removing American Pie versus damage to my brand.  I would make a business decision that best supports my future growth.  Yes.

As for the other shows, never saw them, I know nothing about them.  

Lots of things have been mainstream for decades.  Like black people not getting lead roles..  or female actresses making a fraction of their male counterparts.  Just because something was acceptable doesn't mean it has to continue being acceptable.  we grow, we learn, we do better.  

Depicting highschoolers in tense scenes is questionable at best.  As a father of highschool females, yes the content doesn't seem ok.  

And Google has a business to run.  Workers to pay.  If they decided it was in their best interest to remove, I simply dont see the problem.

(I felt the same when steam denied that horse game)

Damaging a brand to make a few dozen people happy isn't smart business.  



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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

I never said it was wholesome by modern standards. But if you'd ban it, would you also ban Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Pretty Little Liars? Gossip Girl? The OC?

Teenagers having sex is not this shocking new taboo subject, it's been mainstream in media for decades.

 

If I owned a storefront, yes I would weigh cost of removing American Pie versus damage to my brand.  I would make a business decision that best supports my future growth.  Yes.

As for the other shows, never saw them, I know nothing about them.  

Lots of things have been mainstream for decades.  Like black people not getting lead roles..  or female actresses making a fraction of their male counterparts.  Just because something was acceptable doesn't mean it has to continue being acceptable.  we grow, we learn, we do better.  

Depicting highschoolers in tense scenes is questionable at best.  As a father of highschool females, yes the content doesn't seem ok.  

And Google has a business to run.  Workers to pay.  If they decided it was in their best interest to remove, I simply dont see the problem.

(I felt the same when steam denied that horse game)

Sorry but that's a ridiculous comparison.

Teenagers date, flirt, fall in love, and yes, have sex. To pretend this doesn't happen and that it mustn't be so much as talked about like it's some kind of unspeakable taboo is frankly just denying reality.

If the subject objectionable to you, that's fine, you can simply choose not to play Doki Doki Literature Club.



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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

If I owned a storefront, yes I would weigh cost of removing American Pie versus damage to my brand.  I would make a business decision that best supports my future growth.  Yes.

As for the other shows, never saw them, I know nothing about them.  

Lots of things have been mainstream for decades.  Like black people not getting lead roles..  or female actresses making a fraction of their male counterparts.  Just because something was acceptable doesn't mean it has to continue being acceptable.  we grow, we learn, we do better.  

Depicting highschoolers in tense scenes is questionable at best.  As a father of highschool females, yes the content doesn't seem ok.  

And Google has a business to run.  Workers to pay.  If they decided it was in their best interest to remove, I simply dont see the problem.

(I felt the same when steam denied that horse game)

Sorry but that's a ridiculous comparison.

Teenagers date, flirt, fall in love, and yes, have sex. To pretend this doesn't happen and that it mustn't be so much as talked about like it's some kind of unspeakable taboo is frankly just denying reality.

If the subject objectionable to you, that's fine, you can simply choose not to play Doki Doki Literature Club.

And google can decide it isn't for their storefront. 

My wife does graphic design for a living.  We have had similar discussions.  A group reached out wanting some design logos and websites.  Their group came across as racist adjacent.  She declined the work because it would hurt her brand via association.  Was she wrong?  Was she wrong to turn something down because of brand identity?  Or was she within her rights to decide what is best for her business?  

All google has done is remove something they don't think works with their brand..  why is google wrong?  Why should google be forced to host something that isn't good for their business?  

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and my kids have been educated on sex.  nobody is avoiding it.  the question isn't what do kids do.  the question is, is google within their rights.  



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Leynos said:

I use Startpage. Did you go Bing? Duckduck Go? Startpage or something else?

I'm using Ecosia, though I may be switching to Qwant later down the road. Both are European engines, but with a different focus (Ecosia uses the money generated by the searches to plant trees whilst Qwant is very privacy focused).

Ecosia's search results are primarily powered by Microsoft Bing, enhanced by Ecosia's own algorithms. In some cases, or for specific features, it may also utilize results from Google...

It's just a layer on top :/

Qwant relies on Bing's search index to provide comprehensive results.

Qwant goes a bit further though but it's still not independent.

Brave and Mojeek seem to be in dependent and you can turn AI off in Brave.



Y’know… I’ll never understand why some people are so willing to engage in what is essentially endless debate on the internet. It’s already challenging enough to convince somebody of your perspective when confined to a single paragraph or two of text, alongside the limitation of only exchanging a few messages per day. Feels so wasteful IMO. I’d rather just read, process, and reshape my perspective, saying anything only if I have need for clarification or have a rebuttal to proposal.



Mnementh said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

They are private companies, they can decide what they sell. Isn't this the most basic principles of free market? 

As long it's not the state baning the games, there is no problem here to be solved 

Freedoms make no sense in the context of instance that cannot be free or unfree. Can you threaten a company, kill it, torture it, intimidate it — all the stuff done to restrict freedoms? Applying a concept for self-determined beings like humans onto an institution that isn't like a company makes no sense at all.

Freedoms can indeed though applied to humans, including the freedom to want to immerse into sensitive artistic content.

If you don't agree with the semantics of the word freedom in the context of institutions you can use whatever terminology you see more fit to "the right of running their bussines whatever they see fit, as long it's not illegal"



Chrkeller said:
Norion said:

Do you have a problem with art depicting high schoolers going through stuff like mental health issues? Cause the reason it got banned from the Play Store is its depiction of "sensitive themes" and DDLC's most acclaimed aspect is its handling of mental health issues and as someone who dealt with major depression issues for a lot of my teen years and was going through a depressive episode when I played it back in 2017 its handling of that is a huge reason why it was so impactful for me. It's a similar situation for a lot of the other people who have played it.

You still haven't explained why it's nonsense and a weak argument in the way I used it. As I said slippery slope arguments are completely valid in certain situations. It's only a fallacy when used poorly for example by implying that doing something will lead to something unrelated and not providing evidence or a logical basis for why that'll happen.

I think games that feature sexual activities (implied or shown) for under aged kids is sick, gross, disgusting and unacceptable.  

Because it always end up with a gross exaggeration.  Democrats want to limit mag capacity and slippery slope means they are going to ban butter knives!!

Heck, you can see it in this thread.  Google is banning a game that has adult themes involving kids and people are already "omg M rated is next!"

Slippery slope is an assumption based system not grounded in logic and reality.

No idea what high school means to other countries, but here it means under aged kids...  i do not and will not view sexual themes with kids as acceptable.  I just will not. 

That doesn't happen in DDLC but you realize that art depicting something isn't an endorsement of said thing right? It can depict the outright evilest acts imaginable like torture and genocide, including underage people getting killed, tortured and so on.

The key difference is that the US has the 2nd amendment so the ability to own and use guns largely unrestricted is under no threat at all from minor gun regulation. Getting two thirds of the government to implement a new amendment that nullifies that one is not happening when one of the parties is all in on gun rights. In comparison people in certain other countries would've been right to point out that gun regulation decades ago would lead to more down the line so the slippery slope argument would've been correct for that so it absolutely can be grounded in logic and reality.