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OlfinBedwere said:

Well, from a consumer standpoint, since around 2018 or so, which was when Nvidia first included the technology in their GPUs.

That comes from even earlier, almost since the dawn of CUDA.

Alex Krizhevsky programmed AlexNet in two GTX 580s, and Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton only found out about him because he was training very competent artificial neural networks on his gaming rig even earlier than that.



 

 

 

 

 

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OlfinBedwere said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Since when can there be an AI without a data centre?

The only AI I see these days is the kind that wastes water, steals from human artists, makes child porn, blows up Iranian civilians, and makes heat islands. All this is because small minded billionaires wanted to save even more money, not caring that they're golden goose is destroying the world one way or another.

Well, from a consumer standpoint, since around 2018 or so, which was when Nvidia first included the technology in their GPUs.

The likes of Google and OpenAI might offer AI products run from the massive data centres you're talking about, but the truth of the matter is that anyone with access to a PC with a reasonably modern GPU (or a CPU with AI features) and a decent amount of memory can run an AI model on their computer. It just takes a lot of technical know-how to get it running properly, it'd run far slower than the commercially-available options, and you're limited to open-source models.

Besides, AI is a much broader field than I think you realize. Not only does it include the likes of DLSS and FSR upscaling, but applications like Photoshop and video editing suites make use of the technology to greatly accelerate tasks that would take far longer than if they just ran on the CPU - and, ironically, this is something that actually saves energy, since it means the CPU spends a lot less time running flat-out than it would otherwise.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that data centers are destroying the economy and the environment. This is the biggest environmental crisis since oil spills.

Like I said before, the AI future isn't bright like in Mega Man Battle Network. We don't have AIs willingly helping the world, we just have ones destroying it. -_-



This is an aspect I'm really excited for. NPCs that actually feel like real people will be an incredible immersion enhancer.



Norion said:

This is an aspect I'm really excited for. NPCs that actually feel like real people will be an incredible immersion enhancer.

Sure, until they break free and access nuclear launch codes.



CaptainExplosion said:
Norion said:

This is an aspect I'm really excited for. NPCs that actually feel like real people will be an incredible immersion enhancer.

Sure, until they break free and access nuclear launch codes.

I can assure you that AI NPCs in video games won't be doing anything like that.



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Norion said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Sure, until they break free and access nuclear launch codes.

I can assure you that AI NPCs in video games won't be doing anything like that.

Well they'll still need giant data centers, and I've already said enough times how horrible data centers are for people and the planet.



CaptainExplosion said:

Since when can there be an AI without a data centre?

https://ollama.com

https://huggingface.co

Even if you reduce the meaning to just LLMs, then there are still a ton of models that can be run locally on consumer hardware. That is also nothing new, it is possible for some years now.



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Mnementh said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Since when can there be an AI without a data centre?

https://ollama.com

https://huggingface.co

Even if you reduce the meaning to just LLMs, then there are still a ton of models that can be run locally on consumer hardware. That is also nothing new, it is possible for some years now.

LLMs?



CaptainExplosion said:
Norion said:

I can assure you that AI NPCs in video games won't be doing anything like that.

Well they'll still need giant data centers, and I've already said enough times how horrible data centers are for people and the planet.

You've posted that CNN article a few times today so please read this article on that study. Also LLM means large language model and not knowing what that meant shows that you should really educate yourself on AI in general if you're gonna be posting about it a lot.



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