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firebush03 said:
LipeJJ said:

You guys should just give up from this merry go round. When someone doesn't want to be convinced, it's impossible to argue.

You see, I was going to say that moderation needs yo step in… but then I remembered that it is a moderator who needs to be moderated. Lol!

We arent talking about the same person, but yep..  been there via what I considered flat out harassment by a mod.  



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Chrkeller said:
BraLoD said:

The problem is not that Nate can't be wrong, the problem is that based on his track record there is no logical path that leads to thinking he is guessing or making predictions rather than that he does have good sources.

Having good sources doesn't mean he'll be right 100% of the time, games get cancelled, plans change all the time, but the stuff he leaks is definitely not coming from his head.

Let's says TLoU2 online was never announced and it got cancelled after years like it did, it still existed and a leak about it would appear fake even as it was very much real.

Not only that, but plans change and even extremely knowing people might not know why.

Shuhei Yoshida was one of the producers of The Legend of Dragoon, and years later he went as far as to be SIE's president.
More than 10 years after the game released he said there was a second LoD game once in production, but he changed places from Japan to the USA and that he still didn't know why it was cancelled.

Someone as ridiculous big inside Playstation and deeply involved with LoD didn't know what happened to another LoD game to be cancelled. If Shuhei Yoshida was Nate's inside contact and once told him about that game being in production while Sony never even a single time ever mentioned it before and to this day, that would be counted as a big stain on Nate's track record. But it couldn't be more real.

I'm not saying anyone should believe a guy online, even Nate, but again, based on his track record and the extent he has gotten some things right, there is no logical path that leads to anything else than he having inside contacts actually leaking very specific things to him.

You can choose to believe him or not in general or even in a case by case basis, tho.

Ok, I assume the same sources as those who told him WWHD to the S1, which never happened.  The same sources that told him TPHD to the S1, which never happened.  His Zelda sources, based on what I have seen, don't appear solid.  Really, that simple, IMO.  Had he nailed WWHD and TPHD, sure I would be giving him a massive benefit of the doubt.  

Edit

I guess my point is, I don't question his track record overall, but I do question his Zelda specific track record.  His Zelda predictions leave a lot to be desired. 

To be fair, I suppose, a lot of this could be a defense mechanism.  Zelda is my favorite franchise in gaming, by far..  I have been wanting an Ocarina Remake for decades and I do not want to set myself up for disappointment.

My problem with this line of thinking is it seems like you’re assuming he has a Zelda specific source separate from his non-Zelda sources.

For all we know, he might just have one single source or has a whole bunch but it doesn’t make sense to say he’s 0/2 on Zelda leaks while being 17/20 (made up number) on non-Zelda leaks.

I think it makes more sense to look at his overall record rather than breaking it up into categories.

I could also be wrong about this but weren’t WW & TP ports part of the same leak? If so, I would consider that a single miss, not two separate ones.



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zorg1000 said:
Chrkeller said:

Ok, I assume the same sources as those who told him WWHD to the S1, which never happened.  The same sources that told him TPHD to the S1, which never happened.  His Zelda sources, based on what I have seen, don't appear solid.  Really, that simple, IMO.  Had he nailed WWHD and TPHD, sure I would be giving him a massive benefit of the doubt.  

Edit

I guess my point is, I don't question his track record overall, but I do question his Zelda specific track record.  His Zelda predictions leave a lot to be desired. 

To be fair, I suppose, a lot of this could be a defense mechanism.  Zelda is my favorite franchise in gaming, by far..  I have been wanting an Ocarina Remake for decades and I do not want to set myself up for disappointment.

My problem with this line of thinking is it seems like you’re assuming he has a Zelda specific source separate from his non-Zelda sources.

For all we know, he might just have one single source or has a whole bunch but it doesn’t make sense to say he’s 0/2 on Zelda leaks while being 17/20 (made up number) on non-Zelda leaks.  

I think it makes more sense to look at his overall record rather than breaking it up into categories.

I could also be wrong about this but weren’t WW & TP ports part of the same leak? If so, I would consider that a single miss, not two separate ones.

Fair point.  I kind of assume different sources for direct leaks versus game launches.  It doesn't make sense for it to be the same leaker, unless the leaker is senior.  But could be.

No issues considering it one miss.  May not have been nate but 3D mario was definitely happening and now it is definitely not happening...  

Probably too much scientist in me, but claims without evidence is an opinion.  If he doesn't provide evidence, I dont see the point in assuming he is right.  Evidence can be simple, like Fox being a massive character in their big movie.  Evidence and hearsay are not the same for me.

Edit (according to Copilot - for what' is worth, if anything)

Nate the Hate’s Prediction Record and Accuracy

Nate the Hate is a video game prediction and rumor mill host, often co-hosting with Modern Vintage Gamer (MVG) on YouTube and podcast platforms. His content focuses on Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation, and other major game releases, with a mix of confirmed announcements, speculative predictions, and “rumor” pieces.

Prediction record overview

  • Nate the Hate has produced over 170 YouTube videos and 150+ podcast episodes in recent years YouTube+2.

  • His predictions span hardware launches (e.g., Nintendo Switch 2), major game releases (e.g., Mario Galaxy 2, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth), and third-party announcements.

  • He often combines insider leaks, developer interviews, and his own analysis to form predictions.

Accuracy and credibility

  • Correct predictions: Some notable correct calls include The Last of Us Part I: Firefly Edition (Sept 2, 2022) and Halo Infinite Multiplayer (Dec 2021, though later than his November 15, 2021 prediction) GameSpot.

  • Incorrect predictions: Critics point to several misses, such as:

    • Metroid Prime Trilogy HD (predicted for 2021, never released) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy IV Remake for Switch 1 (never materialized) GameSpot

    • Starfield on PS5 (incorrectly predicted) GameSpot

    • Metroid Prime 1 Remaster for Switch 1 (predicted 2022, released 2023) GameSpot

    • Halo Infinite Multiplayer on Nov 15, 2021 (released Dec 2021) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy VII Rebirth in winter 2023 (released Feb 29, 2024) GameSpot

Overall accuracy

  • GameFAQs users note Nate has only gotten about 4 major new game releases correct in recent years, with some being off by a year or more GameSpot.

  • His track record is mixed: he can hit big announcements, but often overestimates timelines or misjudges platform availability.

  • Some predictions are speculative or based on unconfirmed leaks, which can lead to inaccuracies.

Bottom line
Nate the Hate’s prediction record is moderately mixed — he can be right on major game announcements, but his accuracy is inconsistent, and many predictions are speculative. For the most reliable results, cross-check his predictions with official announcements or trusted industry sources.

Last edited by Chrkeller - 3 days ago

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Chrkeller said:
zorg1000 said:

My problem with this line of thinking is it seems like you’re assuming he has a Zelda specific source separate from his non-Zelda sources.

For all we know, he might just have one single source or has a whole bunch but it doesn’t make sense to say he’s 0/2 on Zelda leaks while being 17/20 (made up number) on non-Zelda leaks.  

I think it makes more sense to look at his overall record rather than breaking it up into categories.

I could also be wrong about this but weren’t WW & TP ports part of the same leak? If so, I would consider that a single miss, not two separate ones.

Fair point.  I kind of assume different sources for direct leaks versus game launches.  It doesn't make sense for it to be the same leaker, unless the leaker is senior.  But could be.

No issues considering it one miss.  May not have been nate but 3D mario was definitely happening and now it is definitely not happening...  

Probably too much scientist in me, but claims without evidence is an opinion.  If he doesn't provide evidence, I dont see the point in assuming he is right.  Evidence can be simple, like Fox being a massive character in their big movie.  Evidence and hearsay are not the same for me.

Edit (according to Copilot - for what' is worth, if anything)

Nate the Hate’s Prediction Record and Accuracy

Nate the Hate is a video game prediction and rumor mill host, often co-hosting with Modern Vintage Gamer (MVG) on YouTube and podcast platforms. His content focuses on Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation, and other major game releases, with a mix of confirmed announcements, speculative predictions, and “rumor” pieces.

Prediction record overview

  • Nate the Hate has produced over 170 YouTube videos and 150+ podcast episodes in recent years YouTube+2.

  • His predictions span hardware launches (e.g., Nintendo Switch 2), major game releases (e.g., Mario Galaxy 2, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth), and third-party announcements.

  • He often combines insider leaks, developer interviews, and his own analysis to form predictions.

Accuracy and credibility

  • Correct predictions: Some notable correct calls include The Last of Us Part I: Firefly Edition (Sept 2, 2022) and Halo Infinite Multiplayer (Dec 2021, though later than his November 15, 2021 prediction) GameSpot.

  • Incorrect predictions: Critics point to several misses, such as:

    • Metroid Prime Trilogy HD (predicted for 2021, never released) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy IV Remake for Switch 1 (never materialized) GameSpot

    • Starfield on PS5 (incorrectly predicted) GameSpot

    • Metroid Prime 1 Remaster for Switch 1 (predicted 2022, released 2023) GameSpot

    • Halo Infinite Multiplayer on Nov 15, 2021 (released Dec 2021) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy VII Rebirth in winter 2023 (released Feb 29, 2024) GameSpot

Overall accuracy

  • GameFAQs users note Nate has only gotten about 4 major new game releases correct in recent years, with some being off by a year or more GameSpot.

  • His track record is mixed: he can hit big announcements, but often overestimates timelines or misjudges platform availability.

  • Some predictions are speculative or based on unconfirmed leaks, which can lead to inaccuracies.

Bottom line
Nate the Hate’s prediction record is moderately mixed — he can be right on major game announcements, but his accuracy is inconsistent, and many predictions are speculative. For the most reliable results, cross-check his predictions with official announcements or trusted industry sources.

Yeah I’m not saying it is all just one leaker but we don’t know if his source for WW/TP also leaked other things that turned out to be true. I just don’t think it makes sense to go series by series. For example, let’s say Zelda-0/2, Metroid-1/2, Mario 2/3, DK 1/1, etc. In that particular scenario I would say he has a 50/50 record rather than looking at individual series.

I would say some of those “misses” are nitpicks like Metroid Prime Remastered and some of the other dates. Leaking an unannounced game but being off on the release date by a few weeks/months is a win in my view. Things change and games can have internal delays for a variety of reasons.

But yeah just to be clear, I’m not on team “believe him” or team “don’t believe him”, I think it makes sense and would like it to be true though.

I don’t watch his videos so maybe he does this already but if I were him I would definitely make sure to specify when something is a leak or speculation or an opinion.



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zorg1000 said:
Chrkeller said:

Fair point.  I kind of assume different sources for direct leaks versus game launches.  It doesn't make sense for it to be the same leaker, unless the leaker is senior.  But could be.

No issues considering it one miss.  May not have been nate but 3D mario was definitely happening and now it is definitely not happening...  

Probably too much scientist in me, but claims without evidence is an opinion.  If he doesn't provide evidence, I dont see the point in assuming he is right.  Evidence can be simple, like Fox being a massive character in their big movie.  Evidence and hearsay are not the same for me.

Edit (according to Copilot - for what' is worth, if anything)

Nate the Hate’s Prediction Record and Accuracy

Nate the Hate is a video game prediction and rumor mill host, often co-hosting with Modern Vintage Gamer (MVG) on YouTube and podcast platforms. His content focuses on Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation, and other major game releases, with a mix of confirmed announcements, speculative predictions, and “rumor” pieces.

Prediction record overview

  • Nate the Hate has produced over 170 YouTube videos and 150+ podcast episodes in recent years YouTube+2.

  • His predictions span hardware launches (e.g., Nintendo Switch 2), major game releases (e.g., Mario Galaxy 2, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth), and third-party announcements.

  • He often combines insider leaks, developer interviews, and his own analysis to form predictions.

Accuracy and credibility

  • Correct predictions: Some notable correct calls include The Last of Us Part I: Firefly Edition (Sept 2, 2022) and Halo Infinite Multiplayer (Dec 2021, though later than his November 15, 2021 prediction) GameSpot.

  • Incorrect predictions: Critics point to several misses, such as:

    • Metroid Prime Trilogy HD (predicted for 2021, never released) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy IV Remake for Switch 1 (never materialized) GameSpot

    • Starfield on PS5 (incorrectly predicted) GameSpot

    • Metroid Prime 1 Remaster for Switch 1 (predicted 2022, released 2023) GameSpot

    • Halo Infinite Multiplayer on Nov 15, 2021 (released Dec 2021) GameSpot

    • Final Fantasy VII Rebirth in winter 2023 (released Feb 29, 2024) GameSpot

Overall accuracy

  • GameFAQs users note Nate has only gotten about 4 major new game releases correct in recent years, with some being off by a year or more GameSpot.

  • His track record is mixed: he can hit big announcements, but often overestimates timelines or misjudges platform availability.

  • Some predictions are speculative or based on unconfirmed leaks, which can lead to inaccuracies.

Bottom line
Nate the Hate’s prediction record is moderately mixed — he can be right on major game announcements, but his accuracy is inconsistent, and many predictions are speculative. For the most reliable results, cross-check his predictions with official announcements or trusted industry sources.

Yeah I’m not saying it is all just one leaker but we don’t know if his source for WW/TP also leaked other things that turned out to be true. I just don’t think it makes sense to go series by series. For example, let’s say Zelda-0/2, Metroid-1/2, Mario 2/3, DK 1/1, etc. In that particular scenario I would say he has a 50/50 record rather than looking at individual series.

I would say some of those “misses” are nitpicks like Metroid Prime Remastered and some of the other dates. Leaking an unannounced game but being off on the release date by a few weeks/months is a win in my view. Things change and games can have internal delays for a variety of reasons.

But yeah just to be clear, I’m not on team “believe him” or team “don’t believe him”, I think it makes sense and would like it to be true though.

I don’t watch his videos so maybe he does this already but if I were him I would definitely make sure to specify when something is a leak or speculation or an opinion.

That I completely agree with, even being off a year is still a win.  There are all kinds of reasons for a delay, and being off on timing means jack all.  

I would LOVE it to be true.  I am on the fence if it makes sense.  On one hand they are pushing Zelda life action movie, on the other remakes aren't their thing.  But that has changed a bit recently with Thousand Year Door, Mario RPG.  I am truly on the fence.  

Now Star Fox I 100% think is true, after watching the Mario Galaxy Movie, there is all the reason to believe.  



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Remakes simply make more sense in this day and age. In the past it didn't make sense to spend heavier resources on a remake because you could just make a new franchise installment in 3-5 years.

Today though things have changed, it can take 6-10+ years for a new installment of a bigger IP franchise. And Zelda used to be a franchise that sold somewhere in the 4-8.5 million range generally.

On the Switch the series exploded to being a 20-30+ million seller. That's a massive uplift in series popularity, you just can't keep a superstar player on your bench for the first 3/4 quarters of a game. They need to be in the game. 



Nate is saying SF is getting revealed through Nintendo Today sometime this month. My guess is we’re looking at a June release— coming in a LOT sooner than many may expect. (Though maybe something to keep in mind: DKBananza wasn’t revealed until April 2nd 2025… and was released in mid-July.)



firebush03 said:

Nate is saying SF is getting revealed through Nintendo Today sometime this month. My guess is we’re looking at a June release— coming in a LOT sooner than many may expect. (Though maybe something to keep in mind: DKBananza wasn’t revealed until April 2nd 2025… and was released in mid-July.)

Thanks for the update, that'd be cool if true.

Let's see if he comes through with the goods.



Wonder if they will have a 1080p 120 fps mode? Doubt it, prime 4 was probably a one off, but something like SF is built for 120 fps.



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Chrkeller said:

Wonder if they will have a 1080p 120 fps mode? Doubt it, prime 4 was probably a one off, but something like SF is built for 120 fps.

For Starfox? 

Possibly, but hitting 120fps on Switch 2 would mean the game would need be relatively simple, and it might limit their ability to produce spectacle.

On the other hand, for an arcade shooter, the added fluidity could be glorious.