In your original comment, you stated every game up until this generation was "shitty". No rational person, thinking rationally, would ever believe such a thing. That's why I said you either had to be lying about your age (because a ten year old could plausibly believe it) or lying to yourself.

That was my personal evaluation and opinion, I think you understand that but it seems I managed to offend you and perhaps others. That was not my intention, and of course I was being a bit hyperbolic about it. At the time those games were the best we could get, but most of them were not very fulfilling experiences to me even as a kid. They were glimpses of what could be possible some day. And especially as things have evolved, to me they really have been exposed to be pretty shitty in comparison.

That doesn't mean you are wrong to have liked them or even still liking them, these are subjective things. For the same reason, it also doesn't mean you get to deem it impossible or irrational for anyone to feel like old games were shitty.

Anyways, originally I was simply responding to the idea that kids nowadays have missed out on something good because they have not experienced the first gens of gaming. In my view, they are not worse off than us and gaming today is better than back then. That's all.

Yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with the notion that previous generations were "shitty".

You'll never convince me that games like Super Mario World, RE4, Metroid Prime, Donkey Kong Country, Banjo Kazooie, Halo, Doom, and countless others are shitty games just cos graphics technology has advanced since they were made.

Hell, even the PS4 itself is now way out of date, but that doesn't mean Uncharted 4 or RE7 or Monster Hunter World aren't great games.

Maybe the issue is that I just came off abrasive. Obviously I or anyone else can't say that any game is *objectively* shitty, because it is a matter of taste. One might even say they aren't shitty for their time, but they can feel shitty now in comparison. If they were perfect, why don't Nintendo and others make them with the same 8-bit tech any more, or whatever they might have used? Or maybe you just don't like the word "shitty"? Too strong of an expression? Fair enough. Let's say "lackluster" instead, but the point remains.

Maybe there are people who truly don't see any difference, no matter the bits or whatever, but I'm not one of those people. All inventions in human history have a habit of going from rudimentary to more advanced, and games are no exception in that regard.

And like I said, the PS4 era was my personal breaking point. For some subjective reason, for me personally the PS4 was the point that felt like this is enough, it doesn't need to get better than this. PS3 games felt good in their time, but now they feel less so for me because I have experienced something better. These are personal feelings. I might completely change my mind about the PS4 as well as we move forward, that's also possible.

Maybe the issue is that I just came off abrasive. Obviously I or anyone else can't say that any game is *objectively* shitty, because it is a matter of taste. One might even say they aren't shitty for their time, but they can feel shitty now in comparison. If they were perfect, why don't Nintendo and others make them with the same 8-bit tech any more, or whatever they might have used? Or maybe you just don't like the word "shitty"? Too strong of an expression? Fair enough. Let's say "lackluster" instead, but the point remains.

Maybe there are people who truly don't see any difference, no matter the bits or whatever, but I'm not one of those people. All inventions in human history have a habit of going from rudimentary to more advanced, and games are no exception in that regard.

And like I said, the PS4 era was my personal breaking point. For some subjective reason, for me personally the PS4 was the point that felt like this is enough, it doesn't need to get better than this. PS3 games felt good in their time, but now they feel less so for me because I have experienced something better. These are personal feelings. I might completely change my mind about the PS4 as well as we move forward, that's also possible.

Thank you.

Why would I try to be dishonest in a conversation like this, what would that accomplish? I gave you an insight into my personal experience and it is as valid as anyone else's.

Sure, gaming is always going to evolve into something more advanced, but when I was gaming in the eighties and nineties, I always felt it could be so much better. It's not just about graphics either, it's about depth and what games could do overall.

I guess it's also about the types of games you happen to like. For me, simple platformers and such just won't do, and growing up in the ancient times it took a long time for gaming to evolve beyond that. If simplicity is fun for you, the eighties and nineties were already fine for you and there's nothing wrong with that either.

For me, some kind of breaking point came when the PS4 generation came(I forget the gen numbers). I felt like this feels advaced enough for me in terms of graphics, storytelling, complexity and everything. I would be fine if this was the best it ever got, I thought. Everything from that point on is just more gravy.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be complaining about all the possibilities AI and whatnot will give us in the future, if they are implemented correctly. Things like NPCs you could have real time conversations with instead of fixed dialogue trees, now that would be something.

Maybe the issue is that I just came off abrasive. Obviously I or anyone else can't say that any game is *objectively* shitty, because it is a matter of taste. One might even say they aren't shitty for their time, but they can feel shitty now in comparison. If they were perfect, why don't Nintendo and others make them with the same 8-bit tech any more, or whatever they might have used? Or maybe you just don't like the word "shitty"? Too strong of an expression? Fair enough. Let's say "lackluster" instead, but the point remains.

Maybe there are people who truly don't see any difference, no matter the bits or whatever, but I'm not one of those people. All inventions in human history have a habit of going from rudimentary to more advanced, and games are no exception in that regard.

And like I said, the PS4 era was my personal breaking point. For some subjective reason, for me personally the PS4 was the point that felt like this is enough, it doesn't need to get better than this. PS3 games felt good in their time, but now they feel less so for me because I have experienced something better. These are personal feelings. I might completely change my mind about the PS4 as well as we move forward, that's also possible.