"People/gamers online have this weird sense that if something wasn't for them then everything is crap." I feel like you hit the nail on the head with that sentence. Well said.

You brought up Star Wars....

Star Wars sits in a weird pocket where the general public got started in the middle of the story due, in part, to the technical limitations of special effects of the time rather than going back in the story's timeline to milk a franchise as is more common today.

I'm pushing 50 so Ep. 4-6 are what I grew up on.  I am in the camp that disliked / at first hatted Ep. 1-3.  Parts of it were really good but between Jar-Jar being super annoying and Portman / Christensen's wooden ass or shallow acting I just could not bring myself to like them as a whole.  Jar-Jar was a character for the kids and I was not the target. As for the wooden acting I knew nothing of Christensen so he got a bit of a pass. I knew enough of Portman to know she had more range / was a better actor than what we got out of her.  Jar-Jar and those 2 aside I really liked Neeson and McGregor's performances / characters and the special effects felt like what the series deserved from the start.

I don't think Ep. 7-9 are all that good either but they don't rub me the wrong way like Ep1-3 do.  I believe that is in part to realizing I was no longer the target audience, a thought that had not occurred to me when Ep 1-3 released.  That realization may be why I didn't dislike Ep. 7-9 like I did Ep. 1-3 despite 1-3 being better in my hindsight opinion. I have to say it ... I do hate how they ended Luke's arc.

Perhaps a decent size part of the fan-bases that crap on remakes / today's media mostly just lack perspective.

As an aside - Is there anyone on the board that grew up while Ep 1-3 were being released or had released  ... if you fall in that pocket and started watching the movies Ep 1-6 in order ... do you find the regression of the  special effects between trilogies jarring? 

Sorry OP not really trying to hijack your thread but it had gotten cold.

People's opinions dont really bother me anymore, its whatever.

You cant control people so why get upset over their opinions.

Live and let live is a nice idea in theory, but fails when some people aggressively push their opinions/beliefs on others.

We're talking about video games per the topic.

Nobody is gonna smash a VR headset into my head and force me to play Half Life Alyx after I had said I'll never buy and play it.

Also console warring is bullshit and a waste of time, has been and always will be.

It's more that sometimes when you just wanna talk about games, it can be annoying when some folks insist on shoving their opinions down others' throats or hating on stuff relentlessly rather than just letting people enjoy things.

This is why we have rules against trolling, to keep such behaviour from poisoning discussion.

I think, just my 2 cents, is the frustration when a thread is a good topic and some moron ruins it.  Certainly not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but annoying.  Especially when the double and triple down on their stupid comments.

I think what might come down as toxicity from this site is just the fact that it's a very industry-focused forum. And as things stand at the moment, the gaming industry is going through some pretty big contractions.

Personally I take away whatever information that I can from the data and I completely wall off that part, from the time I spend gaming these days. I know it's not something that everyone can do, but I think I reached and age where I can live knowing that the industry is not in a great state, but absolutely cherish the great moments I spend with my favourite games.