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Is the switch an 8th gen console

Yes its 8th gen 19 41.30%
 
Yes its 9th gen 27 58.70%
 
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I think we need to come up with some new metrics to determine who wins a championship. Something really outlandish, preferably. Alternatively, something we only have fuzzy data on, so we can debate it ad nauseam. Maybe software sales? Nintendo doesn't track most download-only titles in their software totals, while Sony does. This way we could argue endlessly about how much digital-only software is being sold on the eShop, without ever coming to a proper conclusion.



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Chrkeller said:

Revenue: Sony's gaming revenues are over $25 billion annually, significantly higher than Nintendo's $15 billion.

Apologies, but we will need to take Nintendo's belts away and give them to Sony. :(

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Why are you using revenue and not profit



Total Championships: Nintendo - 4, Sony - 2, Atari - 1, Microsoft - 0, Sega - 0

angrypoolman said:
Chrkeller said:

Revenue: Sony's gaming revenues are over $25 billion annually, significantly higher than Nintendo's $15 billion.

Apologies, but we will need to take Nintendo's belts away and give them to Sony. :(

Please update your sig as applicable.  

Why are you using revenue and not profit

why are you using sales and not money?

In 2023, PlayStation's annual net profits were $5.71 billion, which is a 23% increase from the previous year. In contrast, Nintendo's annual net profits were $1.9 billion, which is a 4% decrease from the previous year.

Please return all championship belts so we can award to the real winner.  



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Switch 2

We should subtract all Nintendo Switch Lites right? As the Switch basically replaced the whole handheld market and the Switch Lite is just a handheld. Maybe also subtract 0,5 of the sales for each regular Switch? You guys agree?



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Switch will be the last dedicated game hardware to sell 150 million+ I think. Sony can't come close to that, and Switch 2 will be in tough to get there.



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Soundwave said:

Switch will be the last dedicated game hardware to sell 150 million+ I think. Sony can't come close to that, and Switch 2 will be in tough to get there.

Chances are fairly high that Switch 2 won't outsell the PS5 and that Nintendo won't be able to match Sony gaming's profits.



Soundwave said:

Switch will be the last dedicated game hardware to sell 150 million+ I think. Sony can't come close to that, and Switch 2 will be in tough to get there.

Never say never... PS6 may reach 250M, same goes for Switch 2, or maybe even "Xbox Phoenix reborn phony doomsday"



I would consider Switch 1 to be 9th gen and Switch 2 to be 10th gen. It only feels weird because Nintendo had to pull the plug on the Wii U early. I feel like the gap in launch between Switch 2 & PS6/Next Xbox (if there is one lol) might even be closer than Switch & PS5/XSX.



Torpoleon said:

I would consider Switch 1 to be 9th gen and Switch 2 to be 10th gen. It only feels weird because Nintendo had to pull the plug on the Wii U early. I feel like the gap in launch between Switch 2 & PS6/Next Xbox (if there is one lol) might even be closer than Switch & PS5/XSX.

What if it isn't? Would that change how you classify these consoles



Total Championships: Nintendo - 4, Sony - 2, Atari - 1, Microsoft - 0, Sega - 0

@angrypoolman It still wouldn't. At worst, I can see the gap being more or less the same (which would be the case if PS6 & Next Xbox don't release until Holiday 2028). If that happens, then I would still consider Switch 2 to be 10th gen along with PS6 & Next Xbox, much like how I considered Switch 1 to be 9th gen with PS5 & XSX. Technically, the Switch 1 competed more with the PS5 & XSX than PS4 & Xbox One (Mar 2017 - Oct 2020 would be competing with PS4 & Xbox One, whereas Nov 2020 - Jun 2025 would be competing with PS5 & XSX). The Switch 2 and PS6/Next Xbox would follow almost that exact same pattern if the next systems aren't released until Holiday 2028. We'll see if they push them back that far though!