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SvennoJ said:
Qwark said:

Europe is not as strong as most would want and can't project power we'll far beyond their borders. But Europe is not as weak as US thinks. Sure European countries are weak compared to US. Besides after US takes Danish soil they are more of a liability than an asset to have in Europe. Maybe they want Netherlands next for ASML.

Military wise Europe still has around 2.000.000 active troops and after the US by far the most advanced military gear. Lately France exports more weapons than Russia, so Industrial weapon capacity is not as bad as some think. Europe lacks in strategic long range weapons, but Sint Petersburg and Moscow are not that far from Finland, so in a defensive war with Russia that's not as much of a downside than other conflicts. When waging war with China that is another story.

After Ukraine Russia couldn't invade Europe if it wanted too, or it could say goodbye to it's second largest city. They struggle a lot in Ukraine at this moment with little support, mostly the military support is outdated equipment. The best Russia could do is maybe take the Baltics, at the direct cost of Kalingrad and Sint Petersburg. Nukes are out of the question because French and British forces can throw them as well.

Putin is already conducting hybrid warfare against EU and US is fine with that. US would lose a lot of strategic power if they lose European bases. They also lose access to the artic via Iceland, Finland and Norway. Also US lacks the ice cutters to dominate that area and Finland is building them.

Canada is defenceless against US, if US wants it nobody could stop them.

If the US goes hardcore with Ven oil, it's going to hurt Canada considerably in the future. Depends on what kind of deals Alberta's made with them so far, if those deals have been made yet. Hopefully Smith hasn't been too tough dealing with Trump, or we're likely going to lose out big time because of Ven.

It's also going to put that much more pressure on Carney and the Fed Gov to do something about a coast to coast pipeline system in Canada. Poilievre is going to be shouting this from the rooftops that he's been right about this all along, and Alberta's going to be right there backing him.



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Soundwave said:

Canadian population would become extremely hostile to America if the US ever tried anything, see Ireland attacking Britain and stuff like that, it would also turn Europe completely against the US as well. There would be a massive internal resistance immediately and probably things like resistance/terror attacks/bombings/etc. 

Trump will be gone in 3 years and likely won't even be alive in a decade. At this rate the Republicans will be routed in the mid-term elections next year too, dramatically reducing this administration's power.

Maybe they'll take Greenland as they won't get a huge amount of resistance, Trump is a massive narcissist and he knows he doesn't have much time left at his age, and he wants monuments for himself like every self serving narcissist. 

The damage done to the US' reputation I don't think will ever be repaired though. No ally will ever trust them again, why would you, all it takes it one election cycle for some nut job to get elected and decide to throw any and all alliances in the gutter. 

Half of Canada will either sit back and allow it or welcome it, and these are the type of people you want fighting. The other half will be upset or furious, but most of those people don't have guns and want nothing to do with guns or fighting. So ya, if the USA decided to invade, it won't be much of a fight and it'll be over relatively quick. As I said in a prior post, there's plenty of other ways the USA could take Canada without directly invading and minimizing the conflict.

The USA is too powerful all around to ignore them. They might not be trusted anywhere near as much, but most Countries don't have a lot of choice at the moment. Perhaps in the future they can back away by making the necessary moves sooner than later, but that takes a lot of willpower, as well as politicians willing to take a beating knowing they'll end up with short terms in Gov because of the 'turbulence' it will cause, and it's questionable who's willing to go through all that even though it may be the best decision for the future. People these days have really short memories and fuses.



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SvennoJ said:

Trump would have to occupy Canada with boots on the ground, let's first see what happens next with Venezuela. Canada is over 10x the size of Venezuela as well. Trump sees what Putin trying to take Ukraine is costing Russia, Canadians will fight back as well. 

Eventually yes, but they could easily squeeze Canada into submission long before that, especially with Greenland under their control.

Also the majority of Canadians live within approx 100 miles of the border. Heck the majority lives in the few major cities. Vancouver (metro), Montreal and the GTA. The USA only needs to occupy a tiny portion and it's over, because the majority of the Canadian pop isn't going to fight, or go hide and live in the land to the north period, let alone try and retaliate after that.



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SvennoJ said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Venezuela just proves he's willing to do anything for his own fragile ego, even if it means starting World War III. Never underestimate amoral idiots, that's how so much of Europe ended up occupied by Nazi Germany.

Venezuela is a very different situation from Canada though. This 'regime change' has been in the works for many years with many factors having driven it this far. The people behind overthrowing Venezuela found Trump willing to actually do it.

And follow the money:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/paul-singer-venezuela

Paul Singer is also a big supporter of Israel, staunch Zionist, while Maduro signed onto the ICJ genocide case against Israel and has been openly very anti-Zionist. Next to mocking Trump. 

So we have the Venezuelan oil, billionaires have been drooling over for decades, a dictator that has been in power since 2013 who has become a liability to the US and Israel and Trump looking for an easy win and another price for his ego. There have been many wealthy Venezuelans from Florida supporting this coup with Machado leading the push, dedicating her Nobel 'peace' price to Trump. (Meanwhile Machado has little popular support in Venezuela)

Yeah his ego might want Canada, but there is little traction among MAGA to actually go invade Canada. MAGA is split already over Venezuela.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5673779-conservative-concerns-trump-venezuela/

Plus he isn't really anywhere yet with Venezuela, regime change hasn't happened yet and the country is now uniting behind getting Maduro back...
(mainstream news will have you believing otherwise, they're talking to those that fled the country)


Yeah Trump could take Carney, then what.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/american-invasion-of-canada-would-spark-decades-long-insurgency-expert-predicts/

Canadians already 'rally behind the flag' from Trump's threats alone. The conservatives lost a 30 point lead because of Trump, tourism to the US is way down, Canadians are boycotting US products.

Trump would have to occupy Canada with boots on the ground, let's first see what happens next with Venezuela. Canada is over 10x the size of Venezuela as well. Trump sees what Putin trying to take Ukraine is costing Russia, Canadians will fight back as well. 

Venezuela will show him countries don't just roll over.

Then why isn't my government upping Canada's defenses? We need the firepower and armor to stand up to those brainless fascists.

No fucking way I'd be able to get into the army because I have flat feet wouldn't survive basic training.

And we're really fucked if Adolf Tariff succeeds in controlling Greenland, and with his Russian boyfriend backing him up.

All else I've been able to do is hope that Russia's major cities all burn to the ground, and that Trump dies out of nowhere.



Finally, someone else from the American military who knows what a heartless bitch Trump is.



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CaptainExplosion said:

Then why isn't my government upping Canada's defenses? We need the firepower and armor to stand up to those brainless fascists.

No fucking way I'd be able to get into the army because I have flat feet wouldn't survive basic training.

And we're really fucked if Adolf Tariff succeeds in controlling Greenland, and with his Russian boyfriend backing him up.

All else I've been able to do is hope that Russia's major cities all burn to the ground, and that Trump dies out of nowhere.

Our military is integrated with US systems, see NORAD.

And we're still training together
https://canadiandefencereview.com/caf-leadership-travel-to-u-s-for-multinational-virtual-flag-exercise/

Trump might want things but I assume military commanders aren't jumping to start killing their friends...

First we would have to disentangle our military from the US. But perhaps it's better to keep our 'enemies' closer.


Putin wouldn't be backing up Trump taking Greenland. China and Russia aren't going to stop the US either, they're fine watching Trump burn the USA down to the ground. Have some more rope to hang yourself. Russia would very much like Europe to turn their back on the US, and Trump invading Greenland would fast track that.



SvennoJ said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Then why isn't my government upping Canada's defenses? We need the firepower and armor to stand up to those brainless fascists.

No fucking way I'd be able to get into the army because I have flat feet wouldn't survive basic training.

And we're really fucked if Adolf Tariff succeeds in controlling Greenland, and with his Russian boyfriend backing him up.

All else I've been able to do is hope that Russia's major cities all burn to the ground, and that Trump dies out of nowhere.

Our military is integrated with US systems, see NORAD.

And we're still training together
https://canadiandefencereview.com/caf-leadership-travel-to-u-s-for-multinational-virtual-flag-exercise/

Trump might want things but I assume military commanders aren't jumping to start killing their friends...

First we would have to disentangle our military from the US. But perhaps it's better to keep our 'enemies' closer.


Putin wouldn't be backing up Trump taking Greenland. China and Russia aren't going to stop the US either, they're fine watching Trump burn the USA down to the ground. Have some more rope to hang yourself. Russia would very much like Europe to turn their back on the US, and Trump invading Greenland would fast track that.

Then someone needs to fucking hurry up and put a bullet right through Trump's head to prevent World War III.



Oh, and the fact that he killed PBS and NPR, another big reason Trump won't be missed when he's gone.





SvennoJ said:

They should mob him and force him out of office. Time he got a taste of his own medicine.