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CaptainExplosion said:
shavenferret said:

Canada is too big to handle. Trump is the asshole that picks on tiny countries that aren't powerful. 

Well Canada isn't powerful either. We don't have nukes or hydrogen bombs, last I checked, and we don't have a military big enough to push back. -_-

The problem with taking out Canada's leader is that it wouldn't really accomplish anything. There would be no popular support in Canada and anyone who took over would fiercely oppose the action and the United States. Trump would have to fully take over the country which would be far more messy. 

The theory is that Trump can essentially win over the people and the opposing party because of how awful Maduro was. I don't think things will go as cleanly as Trump seems to expect, but I think the situations are fundamentally different. 



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Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.



sundin13 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Well Canada isn't powerful either. We don't have nukes or hydrogen bombs, last I checked, and we don't have a military big enough to push back. -_-

The problem with taking out Canada's leader is that it wouldn't really accomplish anything. There would be no popular support in Canada and anyone who took over would fiercely oppose the action and the United States. Trump would have to fully take over the country which would be far more messy. 

He'll try anyway for the sake of his own fragile ego and his boyfriend Putin. So we as Canadians need to fortify our defenses, military and civilian alike. I've never killed another person but I will if I need to protect my family.



BFR said:

Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.

The only thing that is a problem for Trump concerning an invasion of Canada and Greenland is that he doesn't have the slightest justification to do so unlike with Venezuela, hence why he can't do it - yet!



BFR said:

Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.

I'm not seeing how Trump cares about democracy though. He also seems to barely care about NATO. Both of these seem like hindrances at best against Trump. It's definitely a higher threshold to act against allies than others, but he's getting bolder and bolder, and he might reach that threshold at some point. I still don't think he's going for Canada though, because he's not getting Canada without a full-scale war, and that's going to be risky without popular support (which, I imagine, doesn't exists for such a war). Greenland though? It's up for grabs, as far as a military response goes. What other response there might be is the real hindrance.

Does Trump even care about Cuba? Or North Korea? During his first term, he certainly seemed to want to get friendly with North Korea. He seems to have thing for 'strong' leaders, and North Korea definitely has one.



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Zkuq said:
BFR said:

Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.

I'm not seeing how Trump cares about democracy though. He also seems to barely care about NATO. Both of these seem like hindrances at best against Trump. It's definitely a higher threshold to act against allies than others, but he's getting bolder and bolder, and he might reach that threshold at some point. I still don't think he's going for Canada though, because he's not getting Canada without a full-scale war, and that's going to be risky without popular support (which, I imagine, doesn't exists for such a war). Greenland though? It's up for grabs, as far as a military response goes. What other response there might be is the real hindrance.

Does Trump even care about Cuba? Or North Korea? During his first term, he certainly seemed to want to get friendly with North Korea. He seems to have thing for 'strong' leaders, and North Korea definitely has one.

Wasn't Maduro a "strong" leader also?

Trump plays a game of good cop/bad cop.

That's why he cozies up to these guys at first.  But, once they piss him off, they better look out.

Look out Khameini. Look out Kim Jung Un. Look out Vladimir Putin.



Zkuq said:
BFR said:

Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.

I'm not seeing how Trump cares about democracy though. He also seems to barely care about NATO. Both of these seem like hindrances at best against Trump. It's definitely a higher threshold to act against allies than others, but he's getting bolder and bolder, and he might reach that threshold at some point. I still don't think he's going for Canada though, because he's not getting Canada without a full-scale war, and that's going to be risky without popular support (which, I imagine, doesn't exists for such a war). Greenland though? It's up for grabs, as far as a military response goes. What other response there might be is the real hindrance.

Does Trump even care about Cuba? Or North Korea? During his first term, he certainly seemed to want to get friendly with North Korea. He seems to have thing for 'strong' leaders, and North Korea definitely has one.

I kind of wonder if this won't result in nuclear proliferation, countries scrambling to build up their nuclear arsenals to make sure that any attempt to attack them will result in ugly consequences. 



SanAndreasX said:
Zkuq said:

I'm not seeing how Trump cares about democracy though. He also seems to barely care about NATO. Both of these seem like hindrances at best against Trump. It's definitely a higher threshold to act against allies than others, but he's getting bolder and bolder, and he might reach that threshold at some point. I still don't think he's going for Canada though, because he's not getting Canada without a full-scale war, and that's going to be risky without popular support (which, I imagine, doesn't exists for such a war). Greenland though? It's up for grabs, as far as a military response goes. What other response there might be is the real hindrance.

Does Trump even care about Cuba? Or North Korea? During his first term, he certainly seemed to want to get friendly with North Korea. He seems to have thing for 'strong' leaders, and North Korea definitely has one.

I kind of wonder if this won't result in nuclear proliferation, countries scrambling to build up their nuclear arsenals to make sure that any attempt to attack them will result in ugly consequences. 

Go ahead, let them try.  We will just bomb their nuke facilities liked we bombed Iran's back in June 2025.

Think about it guys, try stopping a B2 bomber, or a F22 fighter, or a F35 fighter, or even a brand new B21 bomber. 

In whatever country you care about.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
BFR said:

Your forgetting one simple fact: Canada is a NATO ally and a democracy.

Trump has no reason to  take it down and make it the 51st state. Same goes for Greenland, as Denmark owns it.

The countries that should fear Trump the most are Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Columbia.

The only thing that is a problem for Trump concerning an invasion of Canada and Greenland is that he doesn't have the slightest justification to do so unlike with Venezuela, hence why he can't do it - yet!

Yeah his Fentanyl smear campaign didn't gain any traction, plus Canada for now remains inline as far as the government goes, supporting Trump's nonsense. 

I'm more worried we're going to get dragged down hard along with the USA when Trump collapses their economy. It makes more sense to strengthen our economic ties with the rest of the world instead of beefing up the military. That's an impossible race. 

But perhaps invest in border security to keep US' refugees out when it comes to that.... Or at least their guns. 

We should be focusing on developing cities further North, away from the border, increasing heat waves, droughts, tornadoes. Canada is in the unique position that we can move along with climate change.



I could see a Red Dawnesque movie being created about this very scenario :-0

You'd have a calm and reasonable people attacked, an evil boss man, and a crazy situation that nobody would expect.