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I think Celeste has the best approach to this. The "mods" are built into the game allowing you to slow down time, add dashes or stamina or even be invincible if you want to. That means more people get to experience this wonderful game and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the game to anyone.

On the other, even though Hollow Knight is one of my favorite game of all time, when my husband asks me which Metroidvania he should play next, I never recommend HK because I know the difficulty will ruin his experience.



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I mean, it's losing part of what makes the game what it is, but on a single player title, who cares. Just don't allow achievements if the game is modded and done.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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Seems dumb. The game is fantastic as is, and the challenge is very enjoyable. Its weird to me, cause I wouldnt buy Ninja Gaiden and be like "Oh yeah, now im gonna change the game I just bought to be something else". I would just not buy it to begin with, cause clearly its not for me. But sure, to each their own I guess. Its their own time and money after all. 

In any case, I always expect every game available to PC to be modded one way or another. Thats just how PC gaming works. 



Sometimes I feel people need to read aloud what they're posting here beforehand. Some of that stuff and you'd be laughed the fuck off any room in real life.

I like FromSoftware games. But beating them, honestly, did not make me a better person. Neither did it made me feel like telling how others should play them. It's not that important, really. It's just a video game.



 

 

 

 

 

Otter said:

Honestly I think this is why some devs aren't so keen on PC, they see their work as art and mods are people changing their art...

But at the same time, yes to all of this lol.

Which devs?

Aside from some first party and Vanillaware, who else thinks this way?



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BasilZero said:
Otter said:

Honestly I think this is why some devs aren't so keen on PC, they see their work as art and mods are people changing their art...

But at the same time, yes to all of this lol.

Which devs?

Aside from some first party and Vanillaware, who else thinks this way?

Rockstar and Square Enix are who initially popped to mind.

"Hamaguchi continued by saying he didn’t really mean to ask players not to use any mods but just to be “mindful” of them, asking both creators and players not to alter the intended game experience."

Money is king so all of this falls to the way side but I do wonder whether that informed some historic stubbornness with developers, especially Japanese ones.



Otter said:

Rockstar and Square Enix are who initially popped to mind.

"Hamaguchi continued by saying he didn’t really mean to ask players not to use any mods but just to be “mindful” of them, asking both creators and players not to alter the intended game experience."

Money is king so all of this falls to the way side but I do wonder whether that informed some historic stubbornness with developers, especially Japanese ones.

Rockstar is taking advantage of the fact that people will double dip the definitive version and then re-release that definitive version again on next gen systems (see GTAV on PS3/Xbox 360 and then the "best" version came out on PC which got ported over to PS5/Xbox Series). 

Square Enix has backed off on that and is likely going to be releasing their games day 1 on PC now (or close to it)- the window of releases is getting smaller and smaller and what they are doing now is fixing the issues the previous president caused where he made exclusivity deals. The current president is more open on releasing on more than 1 platform especially PC.

Edit: https://www.vgchartz.com/article/463501/square-enix-we-cant-be-exclusive-to-a-single-platform/

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/square-enix-will-make-aaa-games-multiplatform-as-part-of-its-aggressive-new-business-plan/

Doesnt matter what devs say, they can say dont use mods all they want but if the publisher owns the IP which in this case Square Enix does own FF, then it doesnt matter.

The only developer that truly shown stubbornness and not releasing their games is Vanillaware. They own Odin Sphere, Dragon's Crown, 13 sentinels, Unicorn Overlord, Muramasa, etc - SEGA and even Atlus asked them to produce games for PC but they refused (ironically because their first game was on PC and it came out during the time when PC gaming was dead) but neither SEGA or Atlus owns their IPs so they cant force them.

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I don't see a problem here. People have different lifestyles. I used to really enjoy hard games. I got the platinum in Killzone 2! But that was way back when I had pretty much endless time to game. That isn't the case anymore. My work eats a whole lot of time, then there's my wife and son. I try to sneak in an hour of gaming every day, but I don't always succeed in doing so. Ever since I have so little time for gaming, I play on easy mode without regrets. I don't want to spend too much time in one spot. I want to get on with a game so that maybe, just maybe, I can finish it in 1-3 months.

The only exception is The Binding of Isaac. I always play that on hard mode. But only because I already played that game for 1000+ hours, so I'm quite competent at it. =P

I think it's a good thing when there are options so anyone can enjoy a game as they please.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
curl-6 said:

People are allowed to decide for themselves what kind of experience they want.

Some folks simply don't enjoy punishing difficulty, and that's okay. They may genuinely have a better experience if say enemies deal less damage or there's less lost progress upon death.

Why does it even bother you how others choose to play? Just play it the way you want and let others do the same.

The funny thing is that there is already an easy mode built into Souls-like games. If you are having a hard time, you can just farm more souls or explore another area of the map until your character is OP for the boss you are stuck on. And on top of that, most of these games have an item combo like Guts' greatsword, or Giant Dad build that makes the game easy. Souls-likes aren't actually hard; they just don't hold your hand Nintendo style. The people installing this mod after three measly days just want everything spoon-fed to them quickly. They could be patient enough to find that one OP item or go exploring/farming. But they gave up.


If you change the rules of soccer so that you can use your hands, you aren't playing soccer anymore. That's because not being able to use your hands is a small but critical aspect of the game. If you want to play base'ketball or some other variation of a sport that's fine. Just don't claim to be a soccer player while playing a game that isn't soccer. In the vein of videogames, once you take the "difficulty" out of a game like Hollow Knight you've changed a critical aspect of the game. People who install an easy mode mod aren't playing Silk-Song. They are playing a different game that looks and feels the same but is not the same game. Imagine buying a guitar and instead of learning to actually play, you hook your system up to AI and prompt it to make your playing sound awesome. Now, imagine still claiming to be a guitar player. You aren't. You are doing AI-assisted karaoke. And people who use an easy mode mod aren't beating Silk-Song. They are beating a romhack. Both the guitar player and the Silksong mod enjoyer are posers. 

And to that I say it's more mature to just accept that not everything is for you than it is to try to be one of the cool kids enjoying the new hotness. Just go play a different game. Otherwise you are as much a poser as someone that tries to pass store bought cookies off as their own recipe. 

If someone wants to play it in a way that's "not silksong anymore" in your view, why is that a problem? They're not harming your experience in any way. This isn't a competitive sport or a multiplayer game. How someone chooses to play is their business and doesn't affect anybody else.

It's like if some guy and his kids wanna play their own version of 'soccer' at the local park that's easier for the kids, it's harming nobody.



Bruh, if someone spends full price on the game, they are allowed to enjoy it however they deem worthy. This really is a low effort, dumb thread.