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zorg1000 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Aren't you the same one that posted that horrific takeaway from that political survey and didn't acknowledge how dishonest it was?

In general, I really like Curl but I don’t like that he’s intentionally creating threads that he knows will be controversial then dips out.

I'm in Australia, I posted late last night, and I've been asleep for the last 8 hours (as well as just looking after my dog and my gf who's been unwell) and just got up; I didn't "dip", I just haven't had the chance to post further yet.



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ArchangelMadzz said:

Critique of Israel has increased and rightly so considering they are actively committing a genocide. But because Israel claim to be doing it in the name of Jewish people it links Judaism intrinsically to Zionism causing people to then start attacking Jewish people for the actions of a state. Those numbers are up and that's a factual statement. I'm not talking about attacks against the state of Israel.

Yes Semetic peoples includes a lot more than jewish people but we're having a conversation and we all know what antisemitism means in human conversation.

The reason I'm claiming Nazi Ideology is increasing because we have media personalities trying to reclaim the word Nazi and say it's a fine label to have, where people are fine on a platform where millions of people watch the videos proudly state they are fascist and are fine being labelled a Nazi. We have people that have large podcast platforms actively saying Hitler was correct. People like Candace Owens stating that Hitlers problem was globalism not genociding, etc.

I wish there was this much outrage over starving children as over a pair of jeans...

But you are absolutely correct that Nazi Ideology is increasing fueled on by the genocide. I see plenty disgusting (increasing over time) comments on You Tube saying the Nazis were right. And even old anti-semitic slurs are making a comeback, as well as Holocaust deniers are coming out more openly. 

Both ways though, Arab/Muslim hate is increasing just as much. Social media really breaks any faith you might still have in humanity.

And shit like this is to blame, Israeli TV 2 days ago



Shimon Riklin's show on Channel 14 makes a joke about a Gazan mother who ate her daughter.

That's where the outrage should be, not on a pair of genes ffs.



My takes this; literal Neo-Nazis do exist, and are obviously bad.

But when we overuse the term by labelling everything and everyone "Nazi" it waters down just how evil actual Nazism really is, which in turn normalizes it and makes it more palatable. 

If you tell people that something as innocuous as an ad about a sexy white woman having great genes is "Nazi propaganda" then people won't take you seriously when actual Neo-Nazis crop up, or worse they'll think "well, if a sexy woman is Nazism, maybe Nazism's not so bad".



rapsuperstar31 said:
Tober said:

If Naomi Campbell was congratulated on perfect jeans/genes, nobody would give a toss about it. It's white self-hate on display here.

Incorrect, it would the anti woke crowd that would be mad, and calling it DEI woke nonsense. That being said I'm not offended if it's Sweeney doing this commercial, I'm not offended if it's Campbell doing this commercial.  In the future it's going to be neither and just an AI image of what people think perfect looks like.

Nah, Campbell is conventionally attractive, and a literal fashion model who has made big ads for many other clothing brands. No one would have batted an eye to it. Now if it was Lizzo on the other hand, you'd be right.



SvennoJ said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Critique of Israel has increased and rightly so considering they are actively committing a genocide. But because Israel claim to be doing it in the name of Jewish people it links Judaism intrinsically to Zionism causing people to then start attacking Jewish people for the actions of a state. Those numbers are up and that's a factual statement. I'm not talking about attacks against the state of Israel.

Yes Semetic peoples includes a lot more than jewish people but we're having a conversation and we all know what antisemitism means in human conversation.

The reason I'm claiming Nazi Ideology is increasing because we have media personalities trying to reclaim the word Nazi and say it's a fine label to have, where people are fine on a platform where millions of people watch the videos proudly state they are fascist and are fine being labelled a Nazi. We have people that have large podcast platforms actively saying Hitler was correct. People like Candace Owens stating that Hitlers problem was globalism not genociding, etc.

I wish there was this much outrage over starving children as over a pair of jeans...

But you are absolutely correct that Nazi Ideology is increasing fueled on by the genocide. I see plenty disgusting (increasing over time) comments on You Tube saying the Nazis were right. And even old anti-semitic slurs are making a comeback, as well as Holocaust deniers are coming out more openly. 

Both ways though, Arab/Muslim hate is increasing just as much. Social media really breaks any faith you might still have in humanity.

And shit like this is to blame, Israeli TV 2 days ago



Shimon Riklin's show on Channel 14 makes a joke about a Gazan mother who ate her daughter.

That's where the outrage should be, not on a pair of genes ffs.

There's endless clips of Israeli's doing street interviews casually saying the most unhinged thing you've ever heard, politicians in Israel and IDF soldiers joking and laughing about all the children they've shot in the head. I even saw a video where one had blown up a home in Gaza as a gender reveal party (I think the smoke was pink) I mean we all saw the protests in Israel about the guards that were caught raping the Palestinian prisoners and the protests were to free the guards and they debated in parliament whether it was legally possible to even 'Rape' a Palestinian. 

It's hard to watch the extreme levels of islamophobia and the "We owe Hitler an apology" comments, I lay most of the blame on Israel as I said before, claiming to do this on behalf of Judaism puts a target on the back of every Jew.




There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

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Gotta say, it's one of the most effective viral marketing from a clothing brand in decades. Provocative ads are nothing new for fashion brands. Sexy, revealing clothing used to be what pushed the boundaries back in the day, but those aren't shocking or scandalous enough anymore. You just don't get the pearl-clutchers scared and outraged, with accusations of "Satanism", the same way anymore by showing scantily clad women. It's a different climate, you get the them in other ways, you get them screaming "fascism" instead; didn't think all it would take would simply be an attractive woman saying she has ''good jeans'' personally.

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Never heard of her before. Is she famous?



This ad is sus ngl. Feels dogwhistly



Just a guy who doesn't want to be bored. Also

Not long ago, the right threw a hissy fit over this ad. Even Elon Musk jumped in and made silly comments. Check the YouTube comments section for how vile and triggered people were over it. 

I'll try to be consistent and say the same thing for both ads, they grabbed my attention. Prior to seeing either ad, I had no idea that Jaguar was about to unveil a new lineup of cars, and I never thought about American Eagle as a place where I can buy clothes. So well done both? 

Pop Culture was regularly guilty of being controversial, maybe we're just heading back to how things were not long ago, for good or bad, depending on your perspective. 



This is so stupid that it's unreal. Sure, if you're so deep in your weird rabbit hole that you see "dog whistles" everywhere, then I guess you can find them anywhere. But it's bordering on psychosis at this point.
I think there's also projection going on here. For normal people, if you have a commercial with a majority model, it is not an attack on minorities, it just is what it is. But in THEIR world, everything is about inclusion or exclusion and even "inclusion" through exclusion, so in their minds a normal commercial is a slight or an insult if the model is not from their preferred group. Everything is a war to them, because they are indoctrinated.