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No one cares what brand you jeans wear anyway, it's not 1995 anymore where people thought Calvin Klein and The Gap were cool. No one gives a shit anymore, if you want to impress anyone with a brand, you have to step up to the Louis Vuitton range minimum, not some $60 pair of jeans your mom bought you and even those higher end designer brands are becoming some what passe.

And again, Sweeney is not even that attractive, there's a ton of random models better looking than her.

Whole thing is a whole to do about a nothing budget brand that isn't even cool and a "good looking" spokesperson who's not even that good looking. 



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Soundwave said:

No one cares what brand you jeans wear anyway, it's not 1995 anymore where people thought Calvin Klein and The Gap were cool. No one gives a shit anymore, if you want to impress anyone with a brand, you have to step up to the Louis Vuitton range minimum, not some $60 pair of jeans your mom bought you and even those higher end designer brands are becoming some what passe.

And again, Sweeney is not even that attractive, there's a ton of random models better looking than her.

Whole thing is a whole to do about a nothing budget brand that isn't even cool and a "good looking" spokesperson who's not even that good looking. 

Honestly, I wouldn't kick her out of my bed.



ArchangelMadzz said:
The_Yoda said:

Slippery slope fallacy.  

Also there is this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdIuUoRYAL/

I never said it could not be criticized I said you were missing the point.  Did you even know about it before I mentioned it?  Speak true. 

I'm saying the point doesn't matter because the criticisms have nothing to do with the DV, like I said it's just grandstanding and distracting from the issue people have.

And no, I didn't know because American eagle make 0 mention of domestic violence victims in the 7 reels they've posted about this campaign...

Editing to expand on the first point: slippery slope fallacy only applies if it's a new slope. We've seen the slope, We've been down the slope, the slope has been well and truly slipped on, which is why the very first thing I mentioned was attacks on Jewish people ( nazi ideology on the rise and that this is tone deaf and I'll add it's unfortunate too for Sydney to be in the middle of it as she probably just wanted to model some cute jeans 

Do the criticisms of the campaign have anything to do with the campaign? Is DV help part of the campaign? Did my initial post bring that to light?  If so then you were missing a major point of the campaign.  Understandable since normally the point of an ad campaign is to make money for the advertiser. In this instance it is to make money for the text line and they did not virtue signal by making that front and center of these short reels / photos.  

Wait a tick is that a German Shepard in one of them OMFG! This is totally Nazi the Jews are doomed! 

Slipper slope fallacy does not have to be a new slope ... 

In a slippery slope argument, a course of action is rejected because the slippery slope advocate believes it will lead to a chain reaction resulting in an undesirable end or ends. The core of the slippery slope argument is that a specific decision under debate is likely to result in unintended consequences.

A slippery slope fallacy occurs when someone claims that a position or decision will lead to a series of unintended negative consequences.

You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.

The problem with this reasoning is that it avoids engaging with the issue at hand, and instead shifts attention to extreme hypotheticals. Because no proof is presented to show that such extreme hypotheticals will in fact occur  (although you did try) , this fallacy has the form of an appeal to emotion fallacy by leveraging fear. In effect the argument at hand is unfairly tainted by unsubstantiated conjecture.

Well hell you posted a new reply.  LOL oh well.

I hadn't even looked at the comments, I felt dirty enough just being on Instagram. Now I am full on soiled. Kidding, mostly, but I really do hate social media and don't really participate.

One of the comments related to the pics with the dog. "I just see some jeans, a cute dog, and a pretty lady."  That one is in the slim minority of comments I am seeing (I don't know jack when it comes to how the comments you see in Instagram are selected).  Many are along the lines of "Blonde girl, blue eyes, denim, and a German Shepherd. So we’re just cosplaying 1939 now?" and "American Eagle: “Make America 1930s Germany Again.”"

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What I don't see are calls for those without the blond hair and blue eyes to be harmed.  No mentions of "American Eagle is right those are great genes, let's get the Jews!"
Alright I don't think we are going to agree.  You think they either messed up or are trying to "profit" on controversy despite profits for those jeans going to the text line.  I think they made an add with a trending celebrity with an unoriginal hook for a good cause and surprisingly without virtue signaling their motives.  You think this add campaign will help stoke the fires of antisemitism. I think you are worried about a slippery slope that is not there.  I do not see us coming to an agreement and either of our opinions changing and that is ok.  We are each entitled to our view.  Thank you for the discussion anyway. If we have time tomorrow perhaps we will continue if you'd like, but for today I have to call it done. Cheers. 

 



The_Yoda said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I'm saying the point doesn't matter because the criticisms have nothing to do with the DV, like I said it's just grandstanding and distracting from the issue people have.

And no, I didn't know because American eagle make 0 mention of domestic violence victims in the 7 reels they've posted about this campaign...

Editing to expand on the first point: slippery slope fallacy only applies if it's a new slope. We've seen the slope, We've been down the slope, the slope has been well and truly slipped on, which is why the very first thing I mentioned was attacks on Jewish people ( nazi ideology on the rise and that this is tone deaf and I'll add it's unfortunate too for Sydney to be in the middle of it as she probably just wanted to model some cute jeans 

Do the criticisms of the campaign have anything to do with the campaign? Is DV help part of the campaign? Did my initial post bring that to light?  If so then you were missing a major point of the campaign.  Understandable since normally the point of an ad campaign is to make money for the advertiser. In this instance it is to make money for the text line and they did not virtue signal by making that front and center of these short reels / photos.  

Wait a tick is that a German Shepard in one of them OMFG! This is totally Nazi the Jews are doomed! 

Slipper slope fallacy does not have to be a new slope ... 

In a slippery slope argument, a course of action is rejected because the slippery slope advocate believes it will lead to a chain reaction resulting in an undesirable end or ends. The core of the slippery slope argument is that a specific decision under debate is likely to result in unintended consequences.

A slippery slope fallacy occurs when someone claims that a position or decision will lead to a series of unintended negative consequences.

You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.

The problem with this reasoning is that it avoids engaging with the issue at hand, and instead shifts attention to extreme hypotheticals. Because no proof is presented to show that such extreme hypotheticals will in fact occur  (although you did try) , this fallacy has the form of an appeal to emotion fallacy by leveraging fear. In effect the argument at hand is unfairly tainted by unsubstantiated conjecture.

Well hell you posted a new reply.  LOL oh well.

I hadn't even looked at the comments, I felt dirty enough just being on Instagram. Now I am full on soiled. Kidding, mostly, but I really do hate social media and don't really participate.

One of the comments related to the pics with the dog. "I just see some jeans, a cute dog, and a pretty lady."  That one is in the slim minority of comments I am seeing (I don't know jack when it comes to how the comments you see in Instagram are selected).  Many are along the lines of "Blonde girl, blue eyes, denim, and a German Shepherd. So we’re just cosplaying 1939 now?" and "American Eagle: “Make America 1930s Germany Again.”"

I cannot see any of the replies to comments without signing in.

What I don't see are calls for those without the blond hair and blue eyes to be harmed.  No mentions of "American Eagle is right those are great genes, let's get the Jews!"
Alright I don't think we are going to agree.  You think they either messed up or are trying to "profit" on controversy despite profits for those jeans going to the text line.  I think they made an add with a trending celebrity with an unoriginal hook for a good cause and surprisingly without virtue signaling their motives.  You think this add campaign will help stoke the fires of antisemitism. I think you are worried about a slippery slope that is not there.  I do not see us coming to an agreement and either of our opinions changing and that is ok.  We are each entitled to our view.  Thank you for the discussion anyway. If we have time tomorrow perhaps we will continue if you'd like, but for today I have to call it done. Cheers. 

 

Clearly at an empass. 

I do think it's incredibly dishonest to keep bringing up the DV part of the campaign because 1. It's irrelevant to the criticism and 2. It's completely absent from every single post they have made on this campaign.

Literally every single post they've made makes no mention of it.



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

Honestly, we don't have to buy into every pretend media storm/rage bait

There is a very valid sensitivity to media promoting and setting standards for "great genes" based off history, but it's really not that serious but clicks, discourse etc :)

"The Sydney Sweeney ad “backlash” is a product of what cultural analysis has become in newsrooms: Writers lazily chewing on whatever is getting attention on TikTok. Grim."

"extremely good reminder that good paid ads generate lots of free earned media"

Again, I think it's important not to play part in the circus, peddled mostly for clicks/views. 

Last edited by Otter - on 29 July 2025

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It's just an ad. People look to be offended by any and everything these days.



I don’t tend to remember what Sydney Sweeney looks like, but I know her appearance gets discussed a lot.

Not really picking up what some are claiming is racial dog whistling. If anything the jeans ad seems a bit old fashioned. A new spin on a 90s campaign. They probably predicted this is the kind of media cycle they would get from the campaign though and are benefiting.

This whole polarisation thing where certain figures cry evil is a bit annoying though. If there is any dog whistling going on, it’s those people amplifying it by complaining.



Another ragebait thread.



Ever since the O.J. trial, the media has figured out that outrage, even completely fictitious outrage, pays the bills. This is just business as usual.



She is gorgeous. Nothing offensive about that.