ArchangelMadzz said:
I'm saying the point doesn't matter because the criticisms have nothing to do with the DV, like I said it's just grandstanding and distracting from the issue people have.
And no, I didn't know because American eagle make 0 mention of domestic violence victims in the 7 reels they've posted about this campaign...
Editing to expand on the first point: slippery slope fallacy only applies if it's a new slope. We've seen the slope, We've been down the slope, the slope has been well and truly slipped on, which is why the very first thing I mentioned was attacks on Jewish people ( nazi ideology on the rise and that this is tone deaf and I'll add it's unfortunate too for Sydney to be in the middle of it as she probably just wanted to model some cute jeans
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Do the criticisms of the campaign have anything to do with the campaign? Is DV help part of the campaign? Did my initial post bring that to light? If so then you were missing a major point of the campaign. Understandable since normally the point of an ad campaign is to make money for the advertiser. In this instance it is to make money for the text line and they did not virtue signal by making that front and center of these short reels / photos.
Wait a tick is that a German Shepard in one of them OMFG! This is totally Nazi the Jews are doomed!
Slipper slope fallacy does not have to be a new slope ...
In a slippery slope argument, a course of action is rejected because the slippery slope advocate believes it will lead to a chain reaction resulting in an undesirable end or ends. The core of the slippery slope argument is that a specific decision under debate is likely to result in unintended consequences.
A slippery slope fallacy occurs when someone claims that a position or decision will lead to a series of unintended negative consequences.
You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.
The problem with this reasoning is that it avoids engaging with the issue at hand, and instead shifts attention to extreme hypotheticals. Because no proof is presented to show that such extreme hypotheticals will in fact occur (although you did try) , this fallacy has the form of an appeal to emotion fallacy by leveraging fear. In effect the argument at hand is unfairly tainted by unsubstantiated conjecture.
Well hell you posted a new reply. LOL oh well.
I hadn't even looked at the comments, I felt dirty enough just being on Instagram. Now I am full on soiled. Kidding, mostly, but I really do hate social media and don't really participate.
One of the comments related to the pics with the dog. "I just see some jeans, a cute dog, and a pretty lady." That one is in the slim minority of comments I am seeing (I don't know jack when it comes to how the comments you see in Instagram are selected). Many are along the lines of "Blonde girl, blue eyes, denim, and a German Shepherd. So we’re just cosplaying 1939 now?" and "American Eagle: “Make America 1930s Germany Again.”"
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What I don't see are calls for those without the blond hair and blue eyes to be harmed. No mentions of "American Eagle is right those are great genes, let's get the Jews!"
Alright I don't think we are going to agree. You think they either messed up or are trying to "profit" on controversy despite profits for those jeans going to the text line. I think they made an add with a trending celebrity with an unoriginal hook for a good cause and surprisingly without virtue signaling their motives. You think this add campaign will help stoke the fires of antisemitism. I think you are worried about a slippery slope that is not there. I do not see us coming to an agreement and either of our opinions changing and that is ok. We are each entitled to our view. Thank you for the discussion anyway. If we have time tomorrow perhaps we will continue if you'd like, but for today I have to call it done. Cheers.