I don't think it'll lead to the PS5 having its highest sales year ever but I can see it moving millions of PS5's in a few weeks.
I don't think it'll lead to the PS5 having its highest sales year ever but I can see it moving millions of PS5's in a few weeks.
Otter said:
I think it will but next gen will be there as well. Developers are only just finding their foot with a lot of new engine technologies, I think PS6 for a while will just be PS5 games with all the bells and whistles. |
I think PS could drag it out that long if they really wanted to, but XB definitely won't. Due to that, and technology rolling on, and I'm more prone to assume that 2028 would be as late as they'll wait.
I also don't see SNY dropping PS5 pricing this gen, and making next gen even more expensive is asking for trouble. To me, the best bet would be launch new hardware holiday 2028 and whatever they can cook up for $499, is what they should offer gamers.
A 2028 PS6 isn't going to see much of a boost from GTAVI though. Minor at best.
PS1 - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.
PS2 - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.
PS3 - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.
PS4 - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.
PRO -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.
PS5 - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.
PRO -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.
Norion said:
I'm not so sure about that since by the time it launches $499 in 2020 will probably be over $650 and perhaps even a bit close to $700 if it's 2028 so I think it costing the same amount as the PS5 Pro does currently is likely unless it's underpowered since $599 would probably be the price point for that instead of $499. |
Typical inflation or overprinting money inflation? Things aren't so expensive now because of typical inflation. Which also means when things settle back down eventually, everything will become a bit cheaper again. Now it won't go back to being as cheap as 2020, due to typical inflation, but unless SNY wants to repeat the 3rd console curse again and tank PS6 sales, they'll put together the best console they can for $499 and will sell that.
If it seems like an 'underpowered' jump from PS5 Pro, then that's just what its going to be. It's not really going to matter anyway, because PS5 Pro isn't a gigantic leap forward, is too expensive, and isn't going to end up selling like PS4 Pro did by the end of the gen. The only gamers who are really going to be a bit disappointed with a $499 PS6 will be those that spent way too much on a PS5 Pro, for a few extra bells and whistles. PS6 will also have a few more new bells and whistles by 2028, so what's wrong with that, with a launch price of $499?
All you ever hear about is what's wrong with PS5 Pro existing? Whether some people think it's not enough of a jump, or too expensive, or both, who cares if someone else wants the next best thing and is willing to pay for it? Well ok, but then what's wrong with a PS6 that's not really any different, in the sense it's also a smaller jump, with some new bells and whistles, albeit just more affordable this time?
PS1 - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.
PS2 - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.
PS3 - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.
PS4 - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.
PRO -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.
PS5 - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.
PRO -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.
| EricHiggin said: I think PS could drag it out that long if they really wanted to, but XB definitely won't. |
I honestly don't think Xbox is really going to be a consideration going into next generation, it'll be a two horse race between Sony & Nintendo. I'd guess any Xbox hardware will be a niché item.
Steering back on topic, it will be intresting to see if GTA6 ever hits Switch 2. I think we'll need to see what's really possible first. I don't think we should rely on internet commentors to tell us what can be done on the machine; let's see what actual developers come up with.
EricHiggin said:
Typical inflation or overprinting money inflation? Things aren't so expensive now because of typical inflation. Which also means when things settle back down eventually, everything will become a bit cheaper again. Now it won't go back to being as cheap as 2020, due to typical inflation, but unless SNY wants to repeat the 3rd console curse again and tank PS6 sales, they'll put together the best console they can for $499 and will sell that. If it seems like an 'underpowered' jump from PS5 Pro, then that's just what its going to be. It's not really going to matter anyway, because PS5 Pro isn't a gigantic leap forward, is too expensive, and isn't going to end up selling like PS4 Pro did by the end of the gen. The only gamers who are really going to be a bit disappointed with a $499 PS6 will be those that spent way too much on a PS5 Pro, for a few extra bells and whistles. PS6 will also have a few more new bells and whistles by 2028, so what's wrong with that, with a launch price of $499? All you ever hear about is what's wrong with PS5 Pro existing? Whether some people think it's not enough of a jump, or too expensive, or both, who cares if someone else wants the next best thing and is willing to pay for it? Well ok, but then what's wrong with a PS6 that's not really any different, in the sense it's also a smaller jump, with some new bells and whistles, albeit just more affordable this time? |
I don't really know what you mean since it being typical or not doesn't mean that $499 isn't worth notably less now compared to a few years ago. The issue is that $599 would probably already mean it's underpowered so $499 would be really underpowered which wouldn't be a significant issue at first but after a few years it'd already be quite outdated and far behind PC gaming.
There's a rumour about a new Playstation handheld happening so I think that being an option alongside a capable PS6 would be a better idea than releasing a weak PS6.
only777 said:
I honestly don't think Xbox is really going to be a consideration going into next generation, it'll be a two horse race between Sony & Nintendo. I'd guess any Xbox hardware will be a niché item. Steering back on topic, it will be intresting to see if GTA6 ever hits Switch 2. I think we'll need to see what's really possible first. I don't think we should rely on internet commentors to tell us what can be done on the machine; let's see what actual developers come up with. |
The CPU is the equivalent of a modern snapdragon mobile phone CPU and the memory bandwidth is 68gb's in handheld mode. You don't need to listen to internet commentators to know that it's not going to be anywhere near enough to run GTA6. The XBSS has a decent CPU and 224gb's bandwidth, and going by what we've seen of the game so far getting it to run on there will be hard enough. It's not even close sadly, which is why I'm surprised Nintendo is launching a new system that will only put them in no mans land technologically.
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
The CPU is the equivalent of a modern snapdragon mobile phone CPU and the memory bandwidth is 68gb's in handheld mode. You don't need to listen to internet commentators to know that it's not going to be anywhere near enough to run GTA6. The XBSS has a decent CPU and 224gb's bandwidth, and going by what we've seen of the game so far getting it to run on there will be hard enough. It's not even close sadly, which is why I'm surprised Nintendo is launching a new system that will only put them in no mans land technologically. |
"You don't need to listen..." proceed to give a say on this anyway. I remember not long ago when people were laughing over the rumors of the Witcher 3 being ported for Switch, claming to be impossible. No matter how scaleble the technology is nowadays, some people just want to close their eyes and ears to stick in their narratives
We reap what we sow
160rmf said:
"You don't need to listen..." proceed to give a say on this anyway. I remember not long ago when people were laughing over the rumors of the Witcher 3 being ported for Switch, claming to be impossible. No matter how scaleble the technology is nowadays, some people just want to close their eyes and ears to stick in their narratives |
It's not the same. The CPU's in the PS4 and Xbone were so bad that the switch CPU wasn't that far away from it. That's not the case anymore. The PS5/XBS consoles CPU is about 3x faster than the Switch 2 CPU. It's not about opinions or narratives. A game designed to run on the CPU of the PS5/XBS will run at about 10fps in the Switch 2 and there will be no amount of optimisation that could save it.