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I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.



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Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Yeah the results are pretty diverse.

I added them up together and then the most popular results comes to this (low sample size of 8)


Government
Direct Democracy    40.5%
Unitary Democracy  23.4%
Federal Republic      15.5%

It seems we're mostly in unison on having more say in politics, either through referenda or proportional representation on a national level (every vote counts)

Economy
Social Democracy   26.5%
Classic Liberalism   22.8%
Mixed Markets        14.1%
Socialism               12.3%
Market Socialism    11.9%

What they all have in common is more power to the workers, less to mega corporations.

Society
Progressivism        47.3%
Freedom                18.9%
Societal Justice      12.5%

Embrace technology but keep it equal for all.

Religion
Atheist                  42.1%
Secular                 24.3%
Hybrid                  21.2%

Keep church and state separate.

What I personally would add to the religion topic is that public schools should not teach one or no religion, instead they should teach about the major religions around the world. Comparing them instead of keeping religion entirely out of public schools. Religion is part of world history and is an important part in understanding how the world is shaped today. So at least various religions should come up in world history class.

Security
Procedural            56.2%
Humanist             18.8%
Law & Order         12.5%

My views on procedural are a bit different. I believe in personal responsibility, I was just following orders should never be a valid excuse. That road leads to fascism and worse. Laws should always be questioned, refined, updated and that starts by people resisting, not following orders. If not blacks would still be sitting at the back of the bus today.

But it's not black and white, procedures are necessary when it comes to safety. But not safety for the state, safety as in airline operation etc. And I was also surprised Humanist includes free gun ownership. That's not safe at all.

Foreign Policy
Internationalist     35.9%
Nationalist            21.7%
Sovereignist         20.9%
Assimilationist      11.3%

I guess we diverge the most here. Do we want our grand children to be citizens of the world, or stay 'stuck' inside arbitrary country borders. Of course I've been following the Middle East a lot lately where country borders are literally grabbed out of thin air (Sykes-Picot agreement) and imposed on the people living there, which is why so many countries are at civil war in the region. Yet also here we have the border literally going right though the middle of certain cities, it makes no sense.

There needs to be a separation between humanitarian laws and moral values. Let people live the way they want to live, where they want. As long as they're not interfering on other people's human rights, there is no harm. Plus diversity is what keeps life interesting. And Freedom of movement is a human right, it should be world wide instead of restricted to country borders.

But we're a long way off from getting there as the current vast inequality across the world needs to be solved first.



Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Which is exactly why large (growing) Federal Governments are such a big problem most of the time. You either need many many separate smaller democratically based Countries where a large Fed Gov isn't necessarily a problem, because the people who choose to live there want that style of Gov, or, in a single large diverse nation, a small Fed Gov, with many many larger more powerful State Gov's (though not too large or powerful).

The world would be a much better place if people were able to live how they wanted without having to be forced to differently by Government, or if we didn't have people going around forcing others to live differently through Government.



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Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Yeah. I think we all are different and have different ideals. We should still be able to get along and respect each other. And yeah, the simplistic binary view is a way to make politics a power game instead of a tool to improve the life of citizens. Them against us is not goal-oriented but power oriented. And even if they include you and me in the 'us', the ones actually grabbing the power are only a few people. Not only politicians, also strong corporate sponsors.

EricHiggin said:
Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Which is exactly why large (growing) Federal Governments are such a big problem most of the time. You either need many many separate smaller democratically based Countries where a large Fed Gov isn't necessarily a problem, because the people who choose to live there want that style of Gov, or, in a single large diverse nation, a small Fed Gov, with many many larger more powerful State Gov's (though not too large or powerful).

The world would be a much better place if people were able to live how they wanted without having to be forced to differently by Government, or if we didn't have people going around forcing others to live differently through Government.

There is also the alternative of a central gov with separation of powers, so that each part of the gov in itself isn't that powerful. The separation of power into smaller units is one way, but also separating different powers in a bigger country works as well.



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SvennoJ said:
Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Yeah the results are pretty diverse.

I added them up together and then the most popular results comes to this (low sample size of 8)


Government
Direct Democracy    40.5%
Unitary Democracy  23.4%
Federal Republic      15.5%

It seems we're mostly in unison on having more say in politics, either through referenda or proportional representation on a national level (every vote counts)

Economy
Social Democracy   26.5%
Classic Liberalism   22.8%
Mixed Markets        14.1%
Socialism               12.3%
Market Socialism    11.9%

What they all have in common is more power to the workers, less to mega corporations.

Society
Progressivism        47.3%
Freedom                18.9%
Societal Justice      12.5%

Embrace technology but keep it equal for all.

Religion
Atheist                  42.1%
Secular                 24.3%
Hybrid                  21.2%

Keep church and state separate.

What I personally would add to the religion topic is that public schools should not teach one or no religion, instead they should teach about the major religions around the world. Comparing them instead of keeping religion entirely out of public schools. Religion is part of world history and is an important part in understanding how the world is shaped today. So at least various religions should come up in world history class.

Security
Procedural            56.2%
Humanist             18.8%
Law & Order         12.5%

My views on procedural are a bit different. I believe in personal responsibility, I was just following orders should never be a valid excuse. That road leads to fascism and worse. Laws should always be questioned, refined, updated and that starts by people resisting, not following orders. If not blacks would still be sitting at the back of the bus today.

But it's not black and white, procedures are necessary when it comes to safety. But not safety for the state, safety as in airline operation etc. And I was also surprised Humanist includes free gun ownership. That's not safe at all.

Foreign Policy
Internationalist     35.9%
Nationalist            21.7%
Sovereignist         20.9%
Assimilationist      11.3%

I guess we diverge the most here. Do we want our grand children to be citizens of the world, or stay 'stuck' inside arbitrary country borders. Of course I've been following the Middle East a lot lately where country borders are literally grabbed out of thin air (Sykes-Picot agreement) and imposed on the people living there, which is why so many countries are at civil war in the region. Yet also here we have the border literally going right though the middle of certain cities, it makes no sense.

There needs to be a separation between humanitarian laws and moral values. Let people live the way they want to live, where they want. As long as they're not interfering on other people's human rights, there is no harm. Plus diversity is what keeps life interesting. And Freedom of movement is a human right, it should be world wide instead of restricted to country borders.

But we're a long way off from getting there as the current vast inequality across the world needs to be solved first.

All I can say is, wow! Thanks for the effort you put into doing these aggregations of the VGC political opinion (and for sharing some of your own perspective in more detail  too)! I didn't expect that. A nice addition to the thread!

The interpretation of the data you provide that I get is that the small sampling of VGC contributors who've posted here so far overall tends to favor expanding political democracy rather than reducing it or keeping it more or less as is, that we tend to have somewhat similar views regarding the value of separating church and state, that in the great "nationalism vs. globalism" debate, this community tends to embrace a range of relatively more nationalistic perspectives (sorry Davos devotees), that law enforcement is generally valued here, and that probably our biggest disagreements are over the broad questions of preferable economics, technology, and the broader culture wars. The average opinion seems to be slightly left-of-center on economics, with the two of us being the only net socialists (and being somewhat different sorts of socialists at that). And I seem to have an absolute monopoly on concern for social justice, suggesting that, ironically, I may be the most woke person here despite all my gripes about wokeness. That's embarrassing. I seem to the only one who's willing to slow down "human progress" over disparate impacts and such. Maybe I'm still more of an airhead than I even realize.

Anyway, where does that leave us on a more traditional left-right spectrum? I don't know. The average of views here so far definitely isn't strictly left wing or right wing, nor strictly liberal or conservative, and it's not a combination that's commonly represented by political parties.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 15 May 2025

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Jaicee said:

All I can say is, wow! Thanks for the effort you put into doing these aggregations of the VGC political opinion (and for sharing some of your own perspective in more detail  too)! I didn't expect that. A nice addition to the thread!

The interpretation of the data you provide that I get is that the small sampling of VGC contributors who've posted here so far overall tends to favor expanding political democracy rather than reducing it or keeping it more or less as is, that we tend to have somewhat similar views regarding the value of separating church and state, that in the great "nationalism vs. globalism" debate, this community tends to embrace a range of relatively more nationalistic perspectives (sorry Davos devotees), that law enforcement is generally valued here, and that probably our biggest disagreements are over the broad questions of preferable economics, technology, and the broader culture wars. The average opinion seems to be slightly left-of-center on economics, with the two of us being the only net socialists (and being somewhat different sorts of socialists at that). And I seem to have an absolute monopoly on concern for social justice, suggesting that, ironically, I may be the most woke person here despite all my gripes about wokeness. That's embarrassing. I seem to the only one who's willing to slow down "human progress" over disparate impacts and such. Maybe I'm still more of an airhead than I even realize.

Anyway, where does that leave us on a more traditional left-right spectrum? I don't know. The average of views here so far definitely isn't strictly left wing or right wing, nor strictly liberal or conservative, and it's not a combination that's commonly represented by political parties.

We're on a gaming website, so not that surprising embracing technology comes out on top in our small sample. We're all tech literate and tech curious here, and probably know more about AI and its implementations than most people. Both the advantages and the dangers.

And we're also in the top 10% of the world if not in the top 1%. Slowing down progress for social justice isn't the biggest thing on the radar here, as well as economic reform. Let's face it, we're on the top, generally not having to worry about where our next meal comes from or whether we're still going to have a roof over out heads.

But the actual top is still obscenely far away, some more push back against giant corporations and billionaire greed would be nice.



Mnementh said:
EricHiggin said:

Which is exactly why large (growing) Federal Governments are such a big problem most of the time. You either need many many separate smaller democratically based Countries where a large Fed Gov isn't necessarily a problem, because the people who choose to live there want that style of Gov, or, in a single large diverse nation, a small Fed Gov, with many many larger more powerful State Gov's (though not too large or powerful).

The world would be a much better place if people were able to live how they wanted without having to be forced to differently by Government, or if we didn't have people going around forcing others to live differently through Government.

There is also the alternative of a central gov with separation of powers, so that each part of the gov in itself isn't that powerful. The separation of power into smaller units is one way, but also separating different powers in a bigger country works as well.

Yes but you need A LOT of independent sections of separation in that case. Not enough sections and separation, with enough corruption, and next thing you know you've got the few branches of Gov working together to better the Gov and themselves instead of the people. Either that or sections of the Gov stop doing their jobs and allow other branches to take over where there is any overlap or gray area. At that point there's way too much centralized power, and that's a much bigger problem the bigger the Country is.

If a larger Country was split up into many smaller States with more power, where the Fed Gov can't and doesn't interfere much, its far easier for the people to keep both Gov's under control. Worst case if a State Gov becomes too corrupt, you just up and leave to another State that doesn't have the same Gov problems. That's something where the State they left, will eventually be forced to change and smarten up once enough people have gone elsewhere. This wouldn't be too much different than taking one big Country and splitting it up into many smaller Countries, as long as they're all some form of democracy. It's easy enough to move from one Country to another in today's world.



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SvennoJ said:

We're on a gaming website, so not that surprising embracing technology comes out on top in our small sample. We're all tech literate and tech curious here, and probably know more about AI and its implementations than most people. Both the advantages and the dangers.

And we're also in the top 10% of the world if not in the top 1%. Slowing down progress for social justice isn't the biggest thing on the radar here, as well as economic reform. Let's face it, we're on the top, generally not having to worry about where our next meal comes from or whether we're still going to have a roof over out heads.

But the actual top is still obscenely far away, some more push back against giant corporations and billionaire greed would be nice.

Good points.

According to the Omni Calculator, my total household income (that's between both my mine and my wife's combined) is in the bottom 35% of American households and represents the wealthiest I've ever been, so maybe that's part of our difference of mindset sometimes.* Oh well.



Jaicee said:
SvennoJ said:

We're on a gaming website, so not that surprising embracing technology comes out on top in our small sample. We're all tech literate and tech curious here, and probably know more about AI and its implementations than most people. Both the advantages and the dangers.

And we're also in the top 10% of the world if not in the top 1%. Slowing down progress for social justice isn't the biggest thing on the radar here, as well as economic reform. Let's face it, we're on the top, generally not having to worry about where our next meal comes from or whether we're still going to have a roof over out heads.

But the actual top is still obscenely far away, some more push back against giant corporations and billionaire greed would be nice.

Good points.

According to the Omni Calculator, my total household income (that's between both my mine and my wife's combined) is in the bottom 35% of American households and represents the wealthiest I've ever been, so maybe that's part of our difference of mindset sometimes.* Oh well.

I'm talking worldwide. (Not globally in the US :p)

https://wid.world/income-comparator/

Easier to use for world comparison
https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i

Median world wide income for households with 2 adults is $6,800 (after tax) a year.

The fact that we can afford to play video games already puts us in the top 10% of the world.



SvennoJ said:
Jaicee said:

Good points.

According to the Omni Calculator, my total household income (that's between both my mine and my wife's combined) is in the bottom 35% of American households and represents the wealthiest I've ever been, so maybe that's part of our difference of mindset sometimes.* Oh well.

I'm talking worldwide. (Not globally in the US :p)

https://wid.world/income-comparator/

Easier to use for world comparison
https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i

Median world wide income for households with 2 adults is $6,800 (after tax) a year.

The fact that we can afford to play video games already puts us in the top 10% of the world.

Aaaaah, I get you! That makes sense.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 17 May 2025