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SvennoJ said:
Jaicee said:

I'm enjoying getting to see everyone's results so far! The fact that none of us has anything like an identical combination goes to show just beneath the surface of simplistic left-right alignments, we all think pretty uniquely in truth.

Yeah the results are pretty diverse.

I added them up together and then the most popular results comes to this (low sample size of 8)


Government
Direct Democracy    40.5%
Unitary Democracy  23.4%
Federal Republic      15.5%

It seems we're mostly in unison on having more say in politics, either through referenda or proportional representation on a national level (every vote counts)

Economy
Social Democracy   26.5%
Classic Liberalism   22.8%
Mixed Markets        14.1%
Socialism               12.3%
Market Socialism    11.9%

What they all have in common is more power to the workers, less to mega corporations.

Society
Progressivism        47.3%
Freedom                18.9%
Societal Justice      12.5%

Embrace technology but keep it equal for all.

Religion
Atheist                  42.1%
Secular                 24.3%
Hybrid                  21.2%

Keep church and state separate.

What I personally would add to the religion topic is that public schools should not teach one or no religion, instead they should teach about the major religions around the world. Comparing them instead of keeping religion entirely out of public schools. Religion is part of world history and is an important part in understanding how the world is shaped today. So at least various religions should come up in world history class.

Security
Procedural            56.2%
Humanist             18.8%
Law & Order         12.5%

My views on procedural are a bit different. I believe in personal responsibility, I was just following orders should never be a valid excuse. That road leads to fascism and worse. Laws should always be questioned, refined, updated and that starts by people resisting, not following orders. If not blacks would still be sitting at the back of the bus today.

But it's not black and white, procedures are necessary when it comes to safety. But not safety for the state, safety as in airline operation etc. And I was also surprised Humanist includes free gun ownership. That's not safe at all.

Foreign Policy
Internationalist     35.9%
Nationalist            21.7%
Sovereignist         20.9%
Assimilationist      11.3%

I guess we diverge the most here. Do we want our grand children to be citizens of the world, or stay 'stuck' inside arbitrary country borders. Of course I've been following the Middle East a lot lately where country borders are literally grabbed out of thin air (Sykes-Picot agreement) and imposed on the people living there, which is why so many countries are at civil war in the region. Yet also here we have the border literally going right though the middle of certain cities, it makes no sense.

There needs to be a separation between humanitarian laws and moral values. Let people live the way they want to live, where they want. As long as they're not interfering on other people's human rights, there is no harm. Plus diversity is what keeps life interesting. And Freedom of movement is a human right, it should be world wide instead of restricted to country borders.

But we're a long way off from getting there as the current vast inequality across the world needs to be solved first.

All I can say is, wow! Thanks for the effort you put into doing these aggregations of the VGC political opinion (and for sharing some of your own perspective in more detail  too)! I didn't expect that. A nice addition to the thread!

The interpretation of the data you provide that I get is that the small sampling of VGC contributors who've posted here so far overall tends to favor expanding political democracy rather than reducing it or keeping it more or less as is, that we tend to have somewhat similar views regarding the value of separating church and state, that in the great "nationalism vs. globalism" debate, this community tends to embrace a range of relatively more nationalistic perspectives (sorry Davos devotees), that law enforcement is generally valued here, and that probably our biggest disagreements are over the broad questions of preferable economics, technology, and the broader culture wars. The average opinion seems to be slightly left-of-center on economics, with the two of us being the only net socialists (and being somewhat different sorts of socialists at that). And I seem to have an absolute monopoly on concern for social justice, suggesting that, ironically, I may be the most woke person here despite all my gripes about wokeness. That's embarrassing. I seem to the only one who's willing to slow down "human progress" over disparate impacts and such. Maybe I'm still more of an airhead than I even realize.

Anyway, where does that leave us on a more traditional left-right spectrum? I don't know. The average of views here so far definitely isn't strictly left wing or right wing, nor strictly liberal or conservative, and it's not a combination that's commonly represented by political parties.

Last edited by Jaicee - on 15 May 2025