Wyrdness said:
- Yet the context of that comparison is saying PS4 sold this so a Switch TV can it's equivalent to someone saying Switch has sold 150m so the demand is the for a portable PC like Steam Deck.
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I am highlighting the fact the PS4 is an entire addressable market that Nintendo could go after.
I am not saying the Switch TV will see those kinds of sales.
I am not saying the Switch TV will be equivalent to the PS4.
I am saying the PS4 addressable market was 117m consoles, one that Nintendo has neglected to a degree.
I don't know why this is a difficult thing for you to grasp? It's called competing and competition.
Wyrdness said:
- Lite adds to the player base by playing into the concept Switch is built around and as a result maintains more value within that concept as an appealing product a static version however doesn't it's no different to having a prior traditional Nintendo home console which falls outside of the current concept. Removing the TV aspect as done with the Lite still retains the intended concept out of the box for anyone who buys it a static version doesn't as you remove mobile gaming, the QOL aspects of shared household gaming etc...
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Whatever argument you have to justify the existence of the Switch Lite... Can be used to justify the existence of a Switch TV.
The Lite loses all "Switching" capabilities, it's a pure handheld.
A Switch TV loses all "Switching" capabilities, it's a pure console.
The Lite literally loses the Switch concept.
I have been running you around in circles on this point... And you haven't even noticed.
Wyrdness said:
- If someone owns a Switch already why buy a static version even when it's cheaper? Lite as explained above plays into multiple units per household but what role is a static version going to play in a household that already has one? The only role this configuration would play is to solely replace the Switch unit at someone's TV and relegate the normal configuration as a portable which is completely different to what the Lite is doing.
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Again. Same argument for the Switch lite.
If someone already owns a Switch, why buy a Switch Lite?
And as explained prior, the Switch TV adds more units into a household as it's another form factor that appeals to many.
I literally don't understand your anti-consumer argument, for reasoning against the existence of a Switch TV, it's cheaper, it's an extra option... You literally lose NOTHING by having it exist.
Wyrdness said:
- It's not me not grasping it could potentially sell it's you overestimating it's appeal based on your own taste and not understanding the actual reason Switch sells to begin with. The form factor of the product is there to execute the concept they have in mind for the gaming experience they're going to provide that's the appeal of the Switch, the experience they have envisioned takes a lot of ques from the portable market devices with the game sharing, local gaming, mobile gaming, QOL or even Lan like gatherings and cross device features, this is what the platform is sold on and what the consumers buying it find appealing.
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According to Nintendo's statistics, 20% of Switch users don't remove their console from the dock.
Extrapolating that to 150~ million consoles is potentially 30~ million devices. - That's potentially better than half of Nintendo's home consoles to date like the Gamecube, WiiU, Nintendo 64 to name a few.
https://www.giantbomb.com/forums/nintendo-switch-686899/interesting-switch-usage-data-from-nintendo-1816079/
You literally lose nothing by having a Switch TV exist, it's a cheaper, more durable device, having it exist is literally pro-consumer... And you are against that.
It doesn't make sense.
Many games on Switch are best played while the console is connected to the TV with the pro controller.
Wyrdness said:
A lot of this gets lost in the static version you proposed while the Lite retains all of it while still being able to do what the static version can do minus connecting to a TV, the only real argument you've provided is that it would be cheaper.
- Most households may have like one or two TVs at most tbh one that the family uses and maybe one the kids have if the is a second one.
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The Lite literally strips away everything that made the Switch unique. Literally everything.
It's a pure handheld.
I want a fixed home console that throws away all the mobile stuff, I am not a mobile gamer, I want my consoles to last, I want it cheaper.
These are all positive pro-consumer, selling points... And you are against that? Like... Why? Why are you literally against having more options that are also cheaper options? It makes no logical sense.
Remember the Switch 2 is the most expensive console Nintendo has ever released.
Other options that decrease the entry price will accrue more sales, because if the USA goes into recession and takes a few countries with it, you can bet Switch sales will be impacted and that is not good for us, gamers who need Nintendo to get a volume of consoles out in the world to justify their game development budgets and thus bring us great games.