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BasilZero said:

Sounds like you havent played any of the games or if you did, probably skipped cutscenes lol.

I dont care about the sales of the game.

Likely the final title will be "Reborn" especially since they called the

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Original timeline a world they failed in - when they showed cutscenes of the ending of OG FF7 in FF7 Remake.

I mean, it's a world with

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perpetual Sephiroth cancer in the lifestream as seen in Advent Children. Also Aerith being unable to properly die to counter said Sephiroth cancer.

So it stands to reason that the ending of part 3 will solve that matter once and for all.



 

 

 

 

 

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haxxiy said:

I mean, it's a world with

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perpetual Sephiroth cancer in the lifestream as seen in Advent Children. Also Aerith being unable to properly die to counter said Sephiroth cancer.

So it stands to reason that the ending of part 3 will solve that matter once and for all.

Yes I can see that.

I kinda found it strange how the ending in OG FF7 was , too dark and bleak lol - but what happened in Advent Children makes sense now.

Reminded me of the Attack on Titan anime's ending.

I'm hoping for a good conclusion to the entire story arc this time.



BasilZero said:
Otter said:

There's nothing logical about the VII Remake series naming convention. Remake implies something has been remade in its entirety. Rebirth implies something has been reborn. Neither title imply chronology to one another and the 3rd game will struggle to break 2m on PS5 with an equally convoluted naming convention :D

Sounds like you havent played any of the games or if you did, probably skipped cutscenes lol.

I dont care about the sales of the game.

Likely the final title will be "Reborn" especially since they called the

Spoiler!
Original timeline a world they failed in - when they showed cutscenes of the ending of OG FF7 in FF7 Remake.

I love final fantasy but the meaning you've derived from the titles is the peak levels of what is ruining these remakes for me. A bit too much convolution in my tastes and a level of fan service that is both alienating and derailing of coherent story telling. I also think it speaks volumes if this approach is shedding players like the plague. I also hated Advent Children BTW :)


Last edited by Otter - on 09 May 2025

Otter said:

I love final fantasy but the meaning you've derived from the titles is the peak levels of what is ruining these remakes for me. A bit too much convolution in my tastes and a level of fan service that is both alienating and derailing of coherent story telling. I also think it speaks volumes if this approach is shedding players like the plague. I also hated Advent Children BTW :)


If how the fanbase responds to a game is the reason why the remakes are ruined for you, thats a you problem.

Sales numbers and how a fanbase responds shouldnt affect your decision making especially if you are a fan of the series, how the game plays and portrays itself (visually, music, etc) should be the only factors  that should decide whether a game is good or not.

Speaking of fan service, there's nothing wrong with fan service, Advent Children, your example was made as a result of fan service, its not a grammy awarded movie or was made to be some awe inspiring film, its made to be a medium of fan service for those that like Final Fantasy VII and it accomplished that despite not being a perfect film.

I mean just because you dont like it, doesnt mean everyone is gonna think the same as you. For an example, I dont care what the fanbase thinks about the lore/story, I like it and that is all that matters to me.

Square Enix decided to make this a sequel/follow up to the original FFVII and made it a 3 part game series and I feel thats whats costing them the sales but it honestly doesnt bother me as long as I get to play the games.



BasilZero said:
Otter said:

There's nothing logical about the VII Remake series naming convention. Remake implies something has been remade in its entirety. Rebirth implies something has been reborn. Neither title imply chronology to one another and the 3rd game will struggle to break 2m on PS5 with an equally convoluted naming convention :D

Sounds like you havent played any of the games or if you did, probably skipped cutscenes lol.

I dont care about the sales of the game.

Likely the final title will be "Reborn" especially since they called the

Spoiler!
Original timeline a world they failed in - when they showed cutscenes of the ending of OG FF7 in FF7 Remake.

Nah, I think you're reaching to explain an overly convoluted naming convention that turns off anyone who isn't already a fan. I hope that the name of the third game is "Reborn" so we can have three different games that are meant to be played together, but all pretty much named the same thing.

There's are two different RPG series from Bandai-Namco that have like two dozen games on Switch between them + special editions, DLC and side games called Atelier : Subtitle and Legend of Heroes. Every once in a while I get close to trying them out when they go on sale, but then I give up because I can't figure out which ones came first in the series by actual release date, which are first chronologically in the lore, which are remakes, and so on. Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that.



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burninmylight said:
BasilZero said:

Sounds like you havent played any of the games or if you did, probably skipped cutscenes lol.

I dont care about the sales of the game.

Likely the final title will be "Reborn" especially since they called the

Spoiler!
Original timeline a world they failed in - when they showed cutscenes of the ending of OG FF7 in FF7 Remake.

Nah, I think you're reaching to explain an overly convoluted naming convention that turns off anyone who isn't already a fan. I hope that the name of the third game is "Reborn" so we can have three different games that are meant to be played together, but all pretty much named the same thing.

There's are two different RPG series from Bandai-Namco that have like two dozen games on Switch between them + special editions, DLC and side games called Atelier : Subtitle and Legend of Heroes. Every once in a while I get close to trying them out when they go on sale, but then I give up because I can't figure out which ones came first in the series by actual release date, which are first chronologically in the lore, which are remakes, and so on. Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that.

If you don't bother to look for something as simple as release order or to check which ones were remakes then you're not really that interested in first place



Final Fantasy naming convention is extremely east to figure out. It's literally numbers. You can't get more obvious than that

Each numbered entry is essentially a new IP. Meaning everything with VII in the name belongs to VII universe

Sometimes those games are stand alone (IX, XV, etc) and sometimes they have sequels or spin offs (XIII, X, VII)

It's like Persona, every spin off of Persona 5 is on Persona 5 universe, whilst Persona 3 and 4 has no connection to Persona 5 whatsoever

Can someone quickly me explain how is this naming convention harder to understand than franchises with completely different names that doesn't explain anything about the chronological position of the game ?



burninmylight said:

Nah, I think you're reaching to explain an overly convoluted naming convention that turns off anyone who isn't already a fan. I hope that the name of the third game is "Reborn" so we can have three different games that are meant to be played together, but all pretty much named the same thing.

There's are two different RPG series from Bandai-Namco that have like two dozen games on Switch between them + special editions, DLC and side games called Atelier : Subtitle and Legend of Heroes. Every once in a while I get close to trying them out when they go on sale, but then I give up because I can't figure out which ones came first in the series by actual release date, which are first chronologically in the lore, which are remakes, and so on. Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that.

Nah, there's a reason why these games are named the way they are, if you dont play them, you wouldnt understand and explaining to you would be a post full of spoilers and some things are better experienced in person rather than read about by someone else.

If you arent a fan, then why should you care in the first place? If you didnt bother playing the original FF7, there's no point in playing any of the remake series games.

I originally wasnt 100% sure whether someone should play the original or just jump into the remake before I played Remake but now that I've completely finished FFVII Remake Intergrade, I have 100% confidence that you need to play the original FF7 otherwise some of the scenes wont make sense (they literally showcase the scenes from the OG FF7, didnt even bother remaking them , the same blocky character designs lol).

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Your second paragraph is full of mistakes and is proof you have no idea what you are talking about - whether its Final Fantasy or any other RPG series you mentioned in this thread.

Atelier is not a Bandai Namco franchise - its a Koei Tecmo series.

The Legend of Heroes is not a Bandai Namco franchise - its a Nihon Falcom series.


You dont even know the people who made them so of course you wouldnt care enough to do something simple like searching up release dates and the order of games in both story and release order.

Anyways speaking of the Legend of Heroes games, I've played Legend of of Heroes 3, 4 and 5 on PSP (known as the gagharv trilogy) and I played Legend of Heroes 6 (Trails in the Sky FC) on Steam (planning to replay it so I can do the SC and TC back to back)

The Legend of Heroes series is divided into different sub series.

The Legend of Heroes 1-2 is part of the Dragon Slayer series

The Legend of Heroes 3-5 is part of the Gagharv series

(They dropped the numbering after Trails in the Sky FC (which was Legend of Heroes 6 originally).

The Legend of Heroes 6-21 (technically 19 since two of the games are spinoffs) is part of the Trails series

Each sub series is separate from each other world/timeline wise. 

I'm not familiar with Atelier series as much however from what I asked and looked up - its the same as the Legend of Heroes series where there are sub series (such as the Ryza trilogy, Arland series and Dusk series - meaning they are all self contained and not exactly connected).

Speaking of Atelier, I'm going to start with Atelier Ryza 1 soon and will get 2 and 3 after that.

I got most of the other Atelier games on Switch, PS4 and Steam.

IcaroRibeiro said:

If you don't bother to look for something as simple as release order or to check which ones were remakes then you're not really that interested in first place

This 100%.

I looked up Atelier few months ago since I never played any of the games and I'm interested in getting into the series, there's a lot of places that list detailed summaries and I've also asked other communities.

I'm gonna start on Atelier Ryza 1 on Switch sometime after I'm done with my current game I'm playing on my Switch (Dragon Ball Z Kakarot lol).

Last edited by BasilZero - on 10 May 2025

IcaroRibeiro said:

Final Fantasy naming convention is extremely east to figure out. It's literally numbers. You can't get more obvious than that

Each numbered entry is essentially a new IP. Meaning everything with VII in the name belongs to VII universe

Sometimes those games are stand alone (IX, XV, etc) and sometimes they have sequels or spin offs (XIII, X, VII)

It's like Persona, every spin off of Persona 5 is on Persona 5 universe, whilst Persona 3 and 4 has no connection to Persona 5 whatsoever

Can someone quickly me explain how is this naming convention harder to understand than franchises with completely different names that doesn't explain anything about the chronological position of the game ?

Yep.

When in doubt, just play the games in release order.

Thats what I'm planning to do with Persona 5 (gonna start on P5R after Atelier Ryza).



IcaroRibeiro said:
burninmylight said:

Nah, I think you're reaching to explain an overly convoluted naming convention that turns off anyone who isn't already a fan. I hope that the name of the third game is "Reborn" so we can have three different games that are meant to be played together, but all pretty much named the same thing.

There's are two different RPG series from Bandai-Namco that have like two dozen games on Switch between them + special editions, DLC and side games called Atelier : Subtitle and Legend of Heroes. Every once in a while I get close to trying them out when they go on sale, but then I give up because I can't figure out which ones came first in the series by actual release date, which are first chronologically in the lore, which are remakes, and so on. Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that.

If you don't bother to look for something as simple as release order or to check which ones were remakes then you're not really that interested in first place

Maybe so, but I'm not giant corporation that needs to sell millions of copies of a game to the masses to justify hundreds of millions of dollars in development costs, am I?

IcaroRibeiro said:

Final Fantasy naming convention is extremely east to figure out. It's literally numbers. You can't get more obvious than that

Each numbered entry is essentially a new IP. Meaning everything with VII in the name belongs to VII universe

Sometimes those games are stand alone (IX, XV, etc) and sometimes they have sequels or spin offs (XIII, X, VII)

It's like Persona, every spin off of Persona 5 is on Persona 5 universe, whilst Persona 3 and 4 has no connection to Persona 5 whatsoever

Can someone quickly me explain how is this naming convention harder to understand than franchises with completely different names that doesn't explain anything about the chronological position of the game ?

Sure, I can quickly explain. The two games released so far in the new Final Fantasy VII trilogy all have the same number in the name: VII, or 7, or Seven. And the two have a word in the name that mean practically the same thing to most people. That's confusing.

When Persona 5 was rereleased as Persona 5 Royal, simply adding that extra word indicated that it's either the same game plus extra content or a remaster of the game. Same thing with Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Advance Wars and Advance Wars 1+2: Reboot Camp. But when you put a new word after "Remake" like Intergrade, then it's like, what more could you add after already remaking the game? You mean the complete re-imagining from the ground up game you just put out wasn't complete?

Last edited by burninmylight - on 10 May 2025