Correct. Which is my entire damn point.
If it's going to be a higher price, it needs to be a Deluxe/Complete/Definitive edition with EVERYTHING included.

It's a re-release. - It's as simple as that.

Yes my general expectation is for games that are re-released, should be cheaper or the same price.
Clearly it's not going to happen in this instance... However I am pro-consumer, I couldn't give two rats about big business or billionaires, Nintendo's profits are not my concern, nor should they even be yours.

Yes Super Mario Party Jamboree should be cheaper or the same price, again, it's a re-release of an older game.

The Add-on content should be whatever price it is, but Kirby and the Forgotten Land should be a cheaper price for the base game, it's a last generation game.

That is not significant gameplay content, it's a smartphone COMPANION app that I am never going to use in the long line of other useless smartphone apps.

Halo, Forza, Grand Theft Auto, Fallout 4, Metal Gear, Dead Rising, Titanfall, Destiny, Assassins Creed Black Flag, Dying Light, Warframe and dozens and dozens more.... All had Companion apps.
They all tend to add nothing to the gameplay... And over time, developers forget they even exist anyway, no updates, no content, no bug fixes, they just get removed or become non-functional on newer devices.
PLUS THEY ARE ALL FREE.

So yes, I will go back to my original assertion that Zelda Breath of the Wild on Switch 2 should not be a higher price as it offers zero new content, the new content is on an EXTERNAL platform.

Sorry to rip you a new one here and burst your bubble, but that's the reality of it all. - This has literally all been done before in video games, never has it coincided with a Price increase.

Perhaps you should go out and do some basic research before you demand I do the same.

There is no new content in Breath of the Wild being added.

There is no improved textures, there is no overhauled lighting, shadowing or reflections, there is no ray tracing, there is no improved models, there is no improved sound... Nintendo are just taking advantage of better hardware for the game to run better by adjusting a few lines in a text file... Just like when Nintendo brought Breath of the Wild to Switch, same amount of effort. (Which was also the same price, ironically enough.)
At-least with the WiiU to Switch port they HAD to make some effort because the hardware was completely different, this isn't happening this time.

You are defending anti-consumer practices, you are doing yourself and the entire gaming community... Especially the Nintendo gaming community a disservice by making excuses and enabling Nintendo to showcase this kind of behavior in the first place.
You are part of the problem... And you aren't even subtle about it.

No one is dying to play Welcome Tour.

Misunderstood a comment.

I think his point with welcome tour is similar to the quote from Bane in Dark Knight Returns "no one cared until I put on the mask".

It was a sarcastic remark, hence why I likened it to 1-2-Switch from eight years ago. Both games are/were regarded as overpriced and at the same time as "no way I am going to play this, it looks like crap" before their price announcement, so why bother being upset about something that can be easily ignored. Its existence has no influence on what actually does matter.

Ah I see. That makes more sense.

Still it's only human nature. Just because you can ignore something, or even didn't care about it before, it doesn't stop people being outraged.

I don't give a damn about NBA games, but if 2k start charging $100 for them I'm going to roast the crap out of them online like the rest of the collective internet and call them out on their BS.

To be completely honest, I am not happy with these new video game prices. I have never really bought games at full price at launch over here in Europe; but with this new baseline it will push my usual 45eur threshold to last gen's 60eur launch price, and that's something which I will need to consider in future purchases.

Another thing to note is that we are at the launch window of a new generation, and with that comes premium prices. For context, I paid 51eur for BotW back in 2017. EDIT: As for the console price itself is fine, was surprised to see that the unit is going to sport an HDR/VRR/120Hz screen!

You can always buy the NS1 game and get the NS2 upgrade, right?

Breaking up my post into pieces must have made you forget that it all ties together. You start by arguing that if it's a re-release sold at a higher price, it needs to include everything, then in the second portion you complain about Kirby doing exactly what you just asked for.

I don't think the Nintendo gaming community will have much of a problem with BotW and TotK on Switch 2. Chances are that they already own both games. Chances are that they've already purchased the BotW DLC. Chances are that they are already subscribed to NSO and receive Switch 2 upgrade packs as a perk. All the fuss here is first and foremost about those people who have held out for up to eight years to get Zelda for cheap and now it turns out that all those years of waiting amounted to nothing. And yeah, my sympathy for gamers who refuse to pay for great games is pretty limited.

At the end of the day all the Switch 2 Editions are just a continuation of the ongoing complaint that Nintendo doesn't drop the prices of their games like the video game industry does, with no appreciation whatsoever for Nintendo making most of their profits by selling games instead of microtransactions and subscriptions. That's why Nintendo's profits are of my concern and why they also should be of yours, because we are seeing two different paths to make console gaming financially viable. Something has to give, one way or the other. I prefer to pay for games.

Yeah, especially in the cases of BotW and TotK I don't have a problem to pay a small fee of 10 bucks for the resolution upgrade.

They are the two Zelda games with the most "bang for the buck" with lots of content... much more than the other Zelda games. 

Nintendo could have sold them as two-parters back then, so BotW1, BotW2, TotK1, TotK2 for 50 - 60 bucks each and even those versions would have a better value than the Link's Awakening remake or Echoes of Wisdom. 

And people who don't already have BotW or TotK yet, can currently buy the used Switch 1 versions for €35 - €40 each and upgrade them to the Switch 2 version for €10 each.

I would have been very happy, if similar upgrade paths have existed to upgrade Wii U versions to Switch 1 versions. Unfortunately that never happened.

The hardware price doesn't bother me.

One look at the cheapest Steam Deck with it's cheapest configuration, which costs $399, shows that the Switch 2 is much more powerful and better equipped for just $50 more.

• The Switch 2 comes with a 1080p screen while the Steam Deck only has an 800p screen. It's also larger than the one on the Deck
• The cheapest Steam Deck just comes with 64GB of eMMC memory for storage, while the Switch 2 has 256GB of presumably faster storage.
• the Switch 2 is more powerful and has DLSS as an option; Steam Deck can do FSR but only up to FSR 3.1, which is visually inferior to DLSS 3.x or even 4.0. This is especially helpful when any amount of Raytracing is supposed to happen, as RDNA2 is very weak in that domain.
• It comes with additional hardware for NFC (Amiibo), the detachable Joycons that can also double as a computer mouse, etc...

So yeah, when you compare both then the price of $450 really makes sense.

The price of Nintendo games are however more disturbing, as those rarely even drop in price, and when they do, it's about 30% maximum. That's more disturbing for me, but price increases in the videogame industry had to come at some point due to the inflation. And since cartridges are more expensive to produce than optical discs, it's understandable that physical editions are more expensive.

But what is more disturbing to me when it comes to the games is that the Switch 2 editions of the games don't come with all the DLC included afaik. Nintendo should really have those included for the Switch 2 editions to make them the best versions of the games, period. Hopefully the upgrade allows you to also choose the DLC to get all upgrades at once.

Yes.  I haven't heard of any titles you have to repurchase.  

You made it 2 1/2 years.  Welcome Back!