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IcaroRibeiro said:
Otter said:

For sure, to some extent. It depends on the level of interactivity. BOTW was like 20/10... The amount of testing that would require to get things working, and then to make sure that the player couldn't break the world lol. But simply having larger worlds of existing assets isn't a bigger feat then having the same size world of more detailed assets or upgrading an engines rendering capabilities. But yes, I think Nintendo actually spend a lot of time in the R&D stage too which is taken for granted.

Not true. The time spent to polish and modeling graphics follow development time

Overall, all games with have sessions with rough graphics. This happens because the time spent to polish graphics is as big as the other parts of development 

Artists who make graphic modeling work as long the development team is designing, programming, optimizing and testing. Unless of course there is very is very short eith simplistic mechanics, I can remember very few games that applies like Detroit becoming human. Is every step in development is finished no studio will spent additional time working of better pixels

No improvement in graphics generally means the studio is either targeting lower specs or simply want to cut development costs, as a team of artists working for 3 years instead of 1 is still a workforce the need to get paid 

What aspect are you suggesting is not true? 

Graphical benchmarks have a impact on the whole pipeline of development. Entire world interaction is re-written to enable an extra an milisecond in draw time to be used rendering graphics of a desired level at the desired framerate. Engine development in order to enable a certain level of graphical features also takes notable time. I'd say the interplay of graphics and programming shouldn't be understated. Lower graphical benchmarks affords for lower levels of optimisation which can afford speedier development times. 

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Cerebralbore101 said:

This is a good overall direct. There are basically four new Nintendo games for the year. Charging people to play an upgraded version of a game is pretty awful. The microphone and online stuff made me laugh because everyone else has had good internet features for over a decade. $80 games is B.S. but thanks to Tariffs it's now a reality. The extra $50 pricetag for USA people is annoying too. Thanks Donald Dump.



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G2ThaUNiT said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

This is a good overall direct. There are basically four new Nintendo games for the year. Charging people to play an upgraded version of a game is pretty awful. The microphone and online stuff made me laugh because everyone else has had good internet features for over a decade. $80 games is B.S. but thanks to Tariffs it's now a reality. The extra $50 pricetag for USA people is annoying too. Thanks Donald Dump.

Twitter is not a valid source of information. It's literally owned by the shadow president.

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The "this is how Nintendo always does things! It will never change!" crowd seems flabbergasted at a bunch of different things.

I think the truth is their perception of Nintendo is like 20-25 years out of date. The whole "dirt cheap hardware! cheap games! Cuz it's for kids! Nothing fancy in the hardware at all!" stuff was in for a rude awakening.

Nintendo is in a different place in 2025, the vast majority of their buyer base are adults and they know that. "$300-$350 for the system and $50-$60 games forever!!!" was misguided, this is a different era for Nintendo too many people had blinders on. "Because Nintendo did this 10 or 20 years ago!" was not a valid setup for how everything in the future was going to go. 



Cerebralbore101 said:
G2ThaUNiT said:

Twitter is not a valid source of information. It's literally owned by the shadow president.

That may be so, but Daniel Ahmad is a legitimate source.

It's also common sense. Digital goods can't be effected by tariffs. You can't tariff something that doesn't physically exist.



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Zippy6 said:
zorg1000 said:

I think people are forgetting that Metroid Prime 4 & Pokemon Legends ZA are cross-gen titles when talking about there not being a whole lot of 1st party games this year. Those two titles are absolutely major releases for Switch 2.

Welcome to the "It's on ps4 so it doesn't count as a ps5 game" club.

MK, DK and Kirby alone is a decent enough line-up for the first 6 months though.

This isn't really comparable.

Sony's marketing for games when they showcased PS5 was deliberately misleading; they announced several titles only at that time, gave them no solid release dates and then gave vague messaging about 'these games are being developed for PS5'.

I remember people coming to these very forums and preaching 'you can just tell these games are undeniably games that could only exist on a PS5', only for the games to eventually be confirmed for PS4 in the months leading up to their actual release (which wasn't close to the PS5 launch window). And they looked great on PS4, because they were well optimised and made to scale across hardware, not just optimised for one specific hardware which many people believed and Sony were happy for them to spread that messaging.

Nintendo announced those games for Switch well in advance and now they will be releasing alongside Switch 2 with upgraded versions. The games that were announced today during the Switch 2 showcase-- Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza etc., are Switch 2 games. There's no mixed or vague messaging around them. No one is here questioning whether any of those games could release on the current Switch.

Not that I care at all about cross-gen releases or releasing more games on older systems, but deceptive marketing is something no one should support.



G2ThaUNiT said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Twitter is not a valid source of information. It's literally owned by the shadow president.

That may be so, but Daniel Ahmad is a legitimate source.

It's also common sense. Digital goods can't be effected by tariffs. You can't tariff something that doesn't physically exist.

Isn't he the clickbait whore that this site always references? Who even is he? A games analyst? Like Pachter?

Also doesn't Nintendo tend to price their digital games at the same price as the physical version just to keep from pissing off brick and mortar retailers? Isn' that why digital games aren't cheaper on release day?

Finally, Switch 2 is a physical product. Hence the extra $50 pricetag.

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Soundwave said:

The "this is how Nintendo always does things! It will never change!" crowd seems flabbergasted at a bunch of different things.

I think the truth is their perception of Nintendo is like 20-25 years out of date. The whole "dirt cheap hardware! cheap games! Cuz it's for kids! Nothing fancy in the hardware at all!" stuff was in for a rude awakening.

Nintendo is in a different place in 2025, the vast majority of their buyer base are adults and they know that. "$300-$350 for the system and $50-$60 games forever!!!" was never going to be a realistic thing.

It's perfectly reasonable to be surprised at $80 Nintendo games already though. The pace of the move is staggering. Less than two years ago all Nintendo Switch games were $60 or less. They only released one $70 less than two years ago and suddenly we're jumping to $80. I don't think anyone had the foresight that Nintendo would be charging $80 for physical games this soon, or that they'd be the first to do it. With only one $70 title it feels more like they jumped straight from $60 to $80.

They were one of the last to release a $70 title but now are already jumping into the $80 territory.



Shaunodon said:
Zippy6 said:

Welcome to the "It's on ps4 so it doesn't count as a ps5 game" club.

MK, DK and Kirby alone is a decent enough line-up for the first 6 months though.

This isn't really comparable.

Sony's marketing for games when they showcased PS5 was deliberately misleading; they announced several titles only at that time, gave them no solid release dates and then gave vague messaging about 'these games are being developed for PS5'.

Your post isn't really relevant to what we're talking about lol which was people discounting cross-gen titles for next-gen consoles as not being of any value. I'm not sure why you're talking about how the games were revealed or deceptive marketing. Very strange left-turn. Think you just wanted to say your piece. xD



Zippy6 said:
Soundwave said:

The "this is how Nintendo always does things! It will never change!" crowd seems flabbergasted at a bunch of different things.

I think the truth is their perception of Nintendo is like 20-25 years out of date. The whole "dirt cheap hardware! cheap games! Cuz it's for kids! Nothing fancy in the hardware at all!" stuff was in for a rude awakening.

Nintendo is in a different place in 2025, the vast majority of their buyer base are adults and they know that. "$300-$350 for the system and $50-$60 games forever!!!" was never going to be a realistic thing.

It's perfectly reasonable to be surprised at $80 Nintendo games already though. The pace of the move is staggering. Less than two years ago all Nintendo Switch games were $60 or less. They only released one $70 less than two years ago and suddenly we're jumping to $80. I don't think anyone had the foresight that Nintendo would be charging $80 for physical games this soon, or that they'd be the first to do it. With only one $70 title it feels more like they jumped straight from $60 to $80.

They were one of the last to release a $70 title but now are already jumping into the $80 territory.

Physical games are the past, I think people just need to accept that. The $80 is basically a "fine we'll give you physical games but we're not eating the physical cost of the cart + retail margin for no charge any longer, you want that, you pay for it".

The games are $60-$70 ... $80 is just for a minority audience that for whatever reason needs to have physical games ... they can pay more for that.