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its #1 in UK trending rn so how is it a flop?



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WhiteEaglePL said:

its #1 in UK trending rn so how is it a flop?

Thread isn't about how it's a flop, it's about spending 320 million on any film at all. Good or bad. 



I heard the movie wasn't very good, but it seems like it was successful for them, became the most watched movie on Netflix in most countries, including in the US where most of their subscribers are. But yeah, that budget seems outrageously high to me for a streaming movie, very few theatrical movies hit a budget that high.



LegitHyperbole said:
WhiteEaglePL said:

its #1 in UK trending rn so how is it a flop?

Thread isn't about how it's a flop, it's about spending 320 million on any film at all. Good or bad.

If it's a good movie, why should I care?



 

RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Thread isn't about how it's a flop, it's about spending 320 million on any film at all. Good or bad.

If it's a good movie, why should I care?

Like I said above, this is frivolous spending when they aren't spending near enough of the profit they make on reinvesting in content. They could have made three really high quality 10 hour episode TV shows with this or many, many dozens of hours of B tier content. He'll, if they were smart with investing with talent and building their own quality stuff they could get dozens of hours of content people would lobe to watch, LOST the TV show had a budget of 4 million an episode, they could have gotten three 24 episode seasons of that for like 72 hours of viewing. Maybe a little less cause of inflation. All I'm saying is they either need to expand their spending massively and they can afford to by a triple or quadruple easily and still be profitable or they need to be smarter with the money. I for one can't support this shit anymore, we're giving them money to burn it chunks of it and hoard the rest and instead of being smart and good with money they just up the price. 



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LegitHyperbole said:
RedKingXIII said:

If it's a good movie, why should I care?

Like I said above, this is frivolous spending when they aren't spending near enough of the profit they make on reinvesting in content. They could have made three really high quality 10 hour episode TV shows with this or many, many dozens of hours of B tier content. He'll, if they were smart with investing with talent and building their own quality stuff they could get dozens of hours of content people would lobe to watch, LOST the TV show had a budget of 4 million an episode, they could have gotten three 24 episode seasons of that for like 72 hours of viewing. Maybe a little less cause of inflation. All I'm saying is they either need to expand their spending massively and they can afford to by a triple or quadruple easily and still be profitable or they need to be smarter with the money. I for one can't support this shit anymore, we're giving them money to burn it chunks of it and hoard the rest and instead of being smart and good with money they just up the price. 

Why does it matter if it's a quality TV show or a movie? Good content is good content. If they want to invest $200m making a good movie I think that's well spent money? I'm not seeing the issue really. 

What I really don't like about Netflix is the whole model of releasing too many stuff and seeing what sticks. But that's a winning formula for them that I don't think will ever change lol



 

RedKingXIII said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Like I said above, this is frivolous spending when they aren't spending near enough of the profit they make on reinvesting in content. They could have made three really high quality 10 hour episode TV shows with this or many, many dozens of hours of B tier content. He'll, if they were smart with investing with talent and building their own quality stuff they could get dozens of hours of content people would lobe to watch, LOST the TV show had a budget of 4 million an episode, they could have gotten three 24 episode seasons of that for like 72 hours of viewing. Maybe a little less cause of inflation. All I'm saying is they either need to expand their spending massively and they can afford to by a triple or quadruple easily and still be profitable or they need to be smarter with the money. I for one can't support this shit anymore, we're giving them money to burn it chunks of it and hoard the rest and instead of being smart and good with money they just up the price. 

Why does it matter if it's a quality TV show or a movie? Good content is good content. If they want to invest $200m making a good movie I think that's well spent money? I'm not seeing the issue really. 

What I really don't like about Netflix is the whole model of releasing too many stuff and seeing what sticks. But that's a winning formula for them that I don't think will ever change lol

It has changed though. I started Netflix at 6.99 and last month they took 21.99. I changed tier at some point myself but never manually consented to any price increase. Content has surely took a nose dive, they haven't learned anything or had a HBO moment. The closest they've come has been the Three Body Problem and they literally bought that Team out from under HBO and ruined Game of Thrones by offering the two dufuses so much money.

Perhaps your right and they could get something really special out of it, they'd still need to know the difference of choosing who's right for that money. The best stuff they have put on the site is always from British TV but they won't give invest 320 million in the media there or in the people who have brought (or they bought) the best of their content. Offer 320 million to Steven Knight or oher visionaries, hell offer 320 million to Kojima to make a 30 minute CGI film. Go all out and assemble a team of all the best for a cool billion or two to create a HBO level empire on a scale we've never seen from the ground up. Get all the smart talent, they can certainly afford it. I suppose we both see eye to eye on this but it takes the suits to make proper decisions with the money. All that money they could do something with and they won't and instead like you said just throw everything at the wall. 



RedKingXIII said:

Why does it matter if it's a quality TV show or a movie? Good content is good content. If they want to invest $200m making a good movie I think that's well spent money? I'm not seeing the issue really. 

What I really don't like about Netflix is the whole model of releasing too many stuff and seeing what sticks. But that's a winning formula for them that I don't think will ever change lol

It's a 6/10 movie on IMDB, here a 7/10 review

Everyone needs to just calm down, we're not watching The Godfather ll here

Was it the greatest movie ever? No, but it's not supposed to be. It's a free new movie on Netflix and it wasn't as bad as everyone said it would be. Especially if you're a fan of Pratt or Brown. If you must, go into it with low expectations and I believe you will be pretty satisfied with this movie. It had heart, some light laughs and decent music. I would watch this movie with my kids again and probably enjoy it even more. Give it a chance. You're not spending $50 to see it in a theatre. It's just the cost of your Netflix subscription so it's worth it.

Free movie? As a matter of fact, I'm spending CAD 252 a year now for this... I've mostly been keeping Netflix for old content, but that's going to run out pretty soon. They spend 320 million subscriber money to make a 6/10 movie.

It's fine, just makes it easier to cancel in the future if they keep this up. The misguided dream/promise of subscriptions leading to higher quality is just that, misguided.



SvennoJ said:
RedKingXIII said:

Why does it matter if it's a quality TV show or a movie? Good content is good content. If they want to invest $200m making a good movie I think that's well spent money? I'm not seeing the issue really. 

What I really don't like about Netflix is the whole model of releasing too many stuff and seeing what sticks. But that's a winning formula for them that I don't think will ever change lol

It's a 6/10 movie on IMDB, here a 7/10 review

Everyone needs to just calm down, we're not watching The Godfather ll here

Was it the greatest movie ever? No, but it's not supposed to be. It's a free new movie on Netflix and it wasn't as bad as everyone said it would be. Especially if you're a fan of Pratt or Brown. If you must, go into it with low expectations and I believe you will be pretty satisfied with this movie. It had heart, some light laughs and decent music. I would watch this movie with my kids again and probably enjoy it even more. Give it a chance. You're not spending $50 to see it in a theatre. It's just the cost of your Netflix subscription so it's worth it.

Free movie? As a matter of fact, I'm spending CAD 252 a year now for this... I've mostly been keeping Netflix for old content, but that's going to run out pretty soon. They spend 320 million subscriber money to make a 6/10 movie.

It's fine, just makes it easier to cancel in the future if they keep this up. The misguided dream/promise of subscriptions leading to higher quality is just that, misguided.

My PS6 is gonna be funded by their incompetence. I'll install Neflix on that ps6 and reassess the service but I'm cutting all sub services asides from YouTube Premium which is actually useful. It's all so shite, my government funded network along with VODs from the British Channel 4 and Virgin media all for free is easily enough content for me in the mean time and then buy in for a month at then end of the year if their is anything award winning. 

Btw, whom are you quoting, I couldn't find that comment in the thread above. 



Just to be clear, I'm not defending this movie or anything, I was talking in the general sense (if they want to make any good and expensive movies, then do it), but that's not what's happened with this one.

And that's what I was talking about, they release way too much stuff, some of that is good and some bad. Too much content makes it hard for me to find the good stuff, and they just killed a lot of good shows over the years... but even despite all of that Netflix is still huge. It's mind boggling. I unsubbed years ago and I feel I'm not missing much.