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I have beaten it 6 21.43%
 
Played some of it 0 0%
 
Didn't played it but will 0 0%
 
Didn't play nor will I 20 71.43%
 
No opinion 2 7.14%
 
Total:28

Everyone says they want a remake of Origins but it was easily the worst in the series for me. Inquisition still hold up perfectly well to this day so I’d love to see a remaster of DA2 if anything. I loved DA2 back when it released. We should definitely see a ME4, but if peoples opinion on it is from looking at memes on r/gamingcirclejerk than actually playing it consider is DOA. DA4 being a good game (minus the writing) is a hill I’ll happily die on and seeing as it seems I’m the only one who’s played it on this site, it’s a hill I’ll die on alone 🤣



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For the games, yes for sure. One of my favourite games series ever, going out with a "meh".

Such promise, potential, wasted. Disappointing characters, interactions, combat, lore reveals. I think the IP will remain as writers are likely to carry on certain things (books etc) and publications but I was never interested in those as those were all about the character we already know but i was never interested in that. I wanted games with new characters of their stories in this world, one I controlled but it's obvious the writers never actually did.

500 hours in Origins, 250 in DA2, 1200 in DA:I and most of these I did another play right after. 47 in DAV, have no interest in going back.

Now, going to have to hyper focus myself on another thing fictional world. BG3 was good, maybe it's time to get into Forgotten Realms, I hear Planescape game was real good.



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:

For the games, yes for sure. One of my favourite games series ever, going out with a "meh".

Such promise, potential, wasted. Disappointing characters, interactions, combat, lore reveals. I think the IP will remain as writers are likely to carry on certain things (books etc) and publications but I was never interested in those as those were all about the character we already know but i was never interested in that. I wanted games with new characters of their stories in this world, one I controlled but it's obvious the writers never actually did.

500 hours in Origins, 250 in DA2, 1200 in DA:I and most of these I did another play right after. 47 in DAV, have no interest in going back.

Now, going to have to hyper focus myself on another thing fictional world. BG3 was good, maybe it's time to get into Forgotten Realms, I hear Planescape game was real good.

The Witcher is great and it leads into a LOT of real Slavic myths cause it takes that as the basis of inspiration, often using monsters and ghouls straight from Legend and you could loose many dozens of hours on one myth, like the Striga which leads you down paths like medieval vampirism and what not and how all that evolved to modern day. Really good content but I suppose you have to fall in love with The Witcher series, the characters and world first and see if the focus falls strongly enough on the fictional work. I have thankfully been able to not get hyper focused on it too much, thankfully so I don't ruin new entries in the series which now is going to be a remake so we know at least one game will be good if TW4 fails. I really, really hope I do not get hyperfocused on this series or it'll ruin any surprise or uniqueness that'll be left and it's very unique cause we hear so little about old slavic myths and legends. 



Dante9 said:

Just imagine what could have been. If we got the Dragon Age 4 that we wanted. Something that took the best things from the first three games and stayed true to the franchise in every way. God, I hate the Shit Age that is our current reality.

You mean Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: Origins - The Awakening and Dragon Age Inquisition as the three games, right?

LegitHyperbole said:

I'm inclined to believe that we will not see Dragon Age in the immediate future (even a 10 year span) until at some point down the road they go, oh we can pull this out for Nostalgia and people might get their kids into it. 20 years maybe. Unless it's a Remake of Origins whoch would actually sell, I would reckon, albeit they'll probably go the FF7 route, screw it up and people will be pissed. 

It was  a 10 year gap between Inquisition (2014) and Veilguard (2024) anyway.

Honestly I would just like a remake of Dragon Age: Origins and an update to Inquisition to add 4k support to Xbox and Playstation.

VersusEvil said:

Everyone says they want a remake of Origins but it was easily the worst in the series for me. Inquisition still hold up perfectly well to this day so I’d love to see a remaster of DA2 if anything. I loved DA2 back when it released. We should definitely see a ME4, but if peoples opinion on it is from looking at memes on r/gamingcirclejerk than actually playing it consider is DOA. DA4 being a good game (minus the writing) is a hill I’ll happily die on and seeing as it seems I’m the only one who’s played it on this site, it’s a hill I’ll die on alone 🤣

Origins was incredible.
Every "class" had it's own unique start story line.

Origins also had Alistair and Morrigan who were absolutely charismatic and hilarious together, you could tell the actors were enjoying their roles.
And the story had a "bigger than me" story. - Something that was lost in Dragon Age 2.

The combat also required far more strategy, which harkens back to Baldurs Gate, Arcanum, Neverwinter Nights, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale and more, which I really enjoyed.

Dragon Age 2 was terrible, minus a few highlights with characters. - I.E. Varric.

Dragon Age: Inquisition had some really good world building and it was a pretty game on release, shame the maps were huge and the combat was dumbed down for more casual/console audiences.

And Veilguard? I enjoyed the dynamic between Solas and Varric, it was a good conclusion to those stories, but visually it wasn't a 10~ year leap over Inquisition, not on PC anyway and there were a lot of niggles. It was a "good" game, just not a genre defining "great" game... And the same issues that plagued Inquisition still existed. I.E. Dumbed down combat to appeal to console gamers/casuals.




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Pemalite said:
Dante9 said:

Just imagine what could have been. If we got the Dragon Age 4 that we wanted. Something that took the best things from the first three games and stayed true to the franchise in every way. God, I hate the Shit Age that is our current reality.

You mean Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age: Origins - The Awakening and Dragon Age Inquisition as the three games, right?

LegitHyperbole said:

I'm inclined to believe that we will not see Dragon Age in the immediate future (even a 10 year span) until at some point down the road they go, oh we can pull this out for Nostalgia and people might get their kids into it. 20 years maybe. Unless it's a Remake of Origins whoch would actually sell, I would reckon, albeit they'll probably go the FF7 route, screw it up and people will be pissed. 

It was  a 10 year gap between Inquisition (2014) and Veilguard (2024) anyway.

Honestly I would just like a remake of Dragon Age: Origins and an update to Inquisition to add 4k support to Xbox and Playstation.

VersusEvil said:

Everyone says they want a remake of Origins but it was easily the worst in the series for me. Inquisition still hold up perfectly well to this day so I’d love to see a remaster of DA2 if anything. I loved DA2 back when it released. We should definitely see a ME4, but if peoples opinion on it is from looking at memes on r/gamingcirclejerk than actually playing it consider is DOA. DA4 being a good game (minus the writing) is a hill I’ll happily die on and seeing as it seems I’m the only one who’s played it on this site, it’s a hill I’ll die on alone 🤣

Origins was incredible.
Every "class" had it's own unique start story line.

Origins also had Alistair and Morrigan who were absolutely charismatic and hilarious together, you could tell the actors were enjoying their roles.
And the story had a "bigger than me" story. - Something that was lost in Dragon Age 2.

The combat also required far more strategy, which harkens back to Baldurs Gate, Arcanum, Neverwinter Nights, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale and more, which I really enjoyed.

Dragon Age 2 was terrible, minus a few highlights with characters. - I.E. Varric.

Dragon Age: Inquisition had some really good world building and it was a pretty game on release, shame the maps were huge and the combat was dumbed down for more casual/console audiences.

And Veilguard? I enjoyed the dynamic between Solas and Varric, it was a good conclusion to those stories, but visually it wasn't a 10~ year leap over Inquisition, not on PC anyway and there were a lot of niggles. It was a "good" game, just not a genre defining "great" game... And the same issues that plagued Inquisition still existed. I.E. Dumbed down combat to appeal to console gamers/casuals.


Same, I just want Origins remade but with little of the FF7 remake treatment however so added content and QoL stuff, along with redone VA would be welcomed. 

The game Exodus by members of the old Bioware is enough and probably better than an ME4 with this team. Perhaps they would learn a thing or two after remake Origins and be able to craft a new DA that would reset the story in the vein of the Modren Warfare trilogies recent soft Reboot. 



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LegitHyperbole said:

The Witcher is great and it leads into a LOT of real Slavic myths cause it takes that as the basis of inspiration,

Played W3, a very good game but I dunno, something didn't click for me the same way DA world did.

LegitHyperbole said:

Same, I just want Origins remade but with little of the FF7 remake treatment however so added content and QoL stuff, along with redone VA would be welcomed. 

The game Exodus by members of the old Bioware is enough and probably better than an ME4 with this team. Perhaps they would learn a thing or two after remake Origins and be able to craft a new DA that would reset the story in the vein of the Modren Warfare trilogies recent soft Reboot. 

FF7 is my one of my favourite games of all time so i can honestly say that if they redo Origins in the same way they "remade" FF7, then I'm out. I don't want some generic action game thrown at me. :P

And I've heard of that too, it looks to be a potential. 



Hmm, pie.

Technically and gameplay-wise Bioware is fine. It's just the writing of dialogue, lore, etc. that has gone down to a deep abyss.

So far I don't see any signs of that being fixed and since games by 'former X devs' near-universally disappoint I'm inclined to say both ME4 and Exodus will probably be at Andromeda levels of quality if that.



 

 

 

 

 

The Fury said:
LegitHyperbole said:

The Witcher is great and it leads into a LOT of real Slavic myths cause it takes that as the basis of inspiration,

Played W3, a very good game but I dunno, something didn't click for me the same way DA world did.

LegitHyperbole said:

Same, I just want Origins remade but with little of the FF7 remake treatment however so added content and QoL stuff, along with redone VA would be welcomed. 

The game Exodus by members of the old Bioware is enough and probably better than an ME4 with this team. Perhaps they would learn a thing or two after remake Origins and be able to craft a new DA that would reset the story in the vein of the Modren Warfare trilogies recent soft Reboot. 

FF7 is my one of my favourite games of all time so i can honestly say that if they redo Origins in the same way they "remade" FF7, then I'm out. I don't want some generic action game thrown at me. :P

And I've heard of that too, it looks to be a potential. 

Well, there's always Divinity OS sin 1 and 2 since you said you liked Baldurs Gate 3 but there's no much lore to grab onto, just really great games with really great characters and a, not so deep, really fun world. 



Probably.

Ive played and beaten Veilguard and it was certainly much better than the reputation and pushback it got made it seems, and im glad I didnt listen to the haters because I did end up enjoying the game quite a lot, despite its flaws. But yes, its not the Dragon Age we wanted, its not the tone we want for the series, and ultimately the deciding factor here is sales and I dont think Veilguard has the arguments in that regard.



The Fury said:

For the games, yes for sure. One of my favourite games series ever, going out with a "meh".

Such promise, potential, wasted. Disappointing characters, interactions, combat, lore reveals. I think the IP will remain as writers are likely to carry on certain things (books etc) and publications but I was never interested in those as those were all about the character we already know but i was never interested in that. I wanted games with new characters of their stories in this world, one I controlled but it's obvious the writers never actually did.

500 hours in Origins, 250 in DA2, 1200 in DA:I and most of these I did another play right after. 47 in DAV, have no interest in going back.

Now, going to have to hyper focus myself on another thing fictional world. BG3 was good, maybe it's time to get into Forgotten Realms, I hear Planescape game was real good.

Its still a godly level game.
Black Isle Studios was cooking back then Fallout1,2,Icewild dale 1,HoW,2, publish BG1 and 2.