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Forums - Gaming - Several of CDPR's top talent leave to form Rebel Wolves studio. Just... Why?

 

I am more excited for...

The Witcher 4 4 26.67%
 
The Witcher remake 3 20.00%
 
Neither 8 53.33%
 
Total:15

Why?
Because they wanted XD

That's why.

Why you have to suppose any reason if they DO NOT TALK OPENLY ABOUT WHY THEY LEAVE?

They can leave and they just did it. What's the problem? We have to cry? Why? Are you their mother? I don't understand. First, make them talk about their problems (if there is any) in that company. Then, we can talk about.

"It physically hurts." Seriously?

"Oh, the humanity!" as an "Oh, the quality of the games!". Maybe games will be affected, maybe not. So what? You will cry if next CDProject game is a crap?
Those are games. Not real people suffering wars o dying in a genocide while corrupt "democracies" try not to see for 2 years how people burnt alive in an hospital attacked with flame bombs, or children being exterminated with bullets shooted to their heads 'cause "they are not jews"... During 2 fucking years.
For example. For example.

It physically do not hurts me, but is very annoying to see how anyone could be exterminated if you don't have HUGE LOTS OF MONEY, while the pieces of crap they have to do something about that in supposed DEMOCRACIES, BECAUSE THEY ARE ELECTED TO RULE, RESPECTING THE LAWS including the INTERNATIONAL ONE, just talk about how to "treat better" gay people (as if they were persecuted in real live in western world), or about your ridiculous "carbon footprint" is the reason every year California has wildfires, and not its mediterranean climate... or the huge carbon footprint of the billionaires telling you how to live... for example.
I mean... fuck those developers and all its hipster looks XD. Why i have to cry for them with not a public single reason at all at least? 

Dulfite said:

Their franchise/lore designer recently called Cyberpunk 2077 players as "fascists, unempathetic, depraved, poisonous, and predatory wankers."

Who wants to work for a company that feels that way about gamers?

Really? He did that? That is unacceptable and deserves to be expelled from the company.

If he wants "Mario players", he maybe has to make Mario Games. I'm surprised about what people think about the world. Were Unreal players in 2001 also fascists, unempathetic, poisonous, and predatory wankers? Maybe some? And in this case... so what? What the fuck? I can tell that guy many Mario players can perfectky be more dangerous psycopaths than Cyberpunk 2077 ones.
People play games cause they want that experience. If he does not want people consuming his game, because he thinks it makes people worse... just quit. Do not project your crap to consumers and then... continue to get a good paycheck for making people worse with your games, or giving to those bad people an enjoyable time with "your repulsive" product.
And if he does not care about that, BUT sayed that... he is even worse.

I'm sure he is projecting his crap to the buyers of its own game. That needs an apologize... and he needs a psychologist.



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Dulfite said:

Maybe they got tired of working at a company that insults its fans?

Their franchise/lore designer recently called Cyberpunk 2077 players as "fascists, unempathetic, depraved, poisonous, and predatory wankers."

Who wants to work for a company that feels that way about gamers?

This is not what was said. Criticizing the weirdos who are harassing trans writers: 

"I wonder if they realize that by harassing trans writers who have rightfully and justifiably critiqued Cyberpunk 2077’s haphazard and sometimes harmful representation of trans people, that they themselves are the exact kind of people that cyberpunk is designed to destroy: fascistic, unempathetic, and depraved proponents of a regime designed to foster irreversible and indiscriminate misery in technophilic dystopia."

"Cyberpunk 2077 is not captivatingly cyberpunk in the same way as Neuromancer or Akira, or a gigantic number of other cyberpunk texts, but I can assure you of one thing: the people who call Cyberpunk 2077 perfect and refuse to acknowledge its failings are the very same people who have no place in the society that cyberpunk warns against. As the internet drowns in vitriolic virulence in anticipation of the game’s full, unadulterated launch, these people are sharks in the water, hungry for blood. But we are not living in Cyberpunk, and we have not yet reached technophilic dystopia - we can suppress their hatred by starving them until they cannibalize each other, and revel in the humanity that Cyberpunk 2077’s quieter moments offer, away from the maelstrom and free of the people it has exposed as poisonous and predatory wankers."



Darc Requiem said:
the-pi-guy said:

These people are a tiny minority compared to the racists, sexists, etc. So why is so much of your time spent on these people instead? 

The people that work for the developer/publisher that attack their consumer base? That's the not question to ask. The question is why aren't the immediately fired. You can't attack your customer base, no matter what you think of them. As a business, it's financial suicide. It shoud be business 101. Apparently these developers skipped that class. There is zero to be gained from it and a lot to lose. Companies not getting rid of these people tells the consumer they agree with the sentiment. These selfish blowhards tank games that dozens if not hundreds of other people have worked on. They show zero consideration for the company more importantly their fellow developers. 

Yes, the person saying "gamers were a mistake" is the selfish blowhard, and not the gamers sending death threats. 



Darc Requiem said:

I really don't get the consternation around Ciri being the protagonist of The Witcher 4. That was general consensus before there was any announcement. They were building towards Ciri taking the lead. It was plain as day. I get the questions about her undergoing the Trail of the Grasses but her being the protagonist comes off as people farming for engagement.

Cause it's fake outrage built for the current grift, multiple things that would have been completely ignored only a few years ago now have "gamers" up in arms because their idols on Twitter and YouTube are telling them what to be angry about. Avowed is also an example of this where barely anyone was crying about The Outer Worlds having an asexual character but absolutely pissed their pants at seeing "He/Him" in Avowed's text. Many of these people complaining are clearly tourists because many of the things aren't anything new.

You're correct, the general consensus was that Ciri would be the lead character for Witcher 4, The Witcher 3 has an entire ending built around her becoming a Witcher and prepping her to lead the next title, The Witcher 3's DLC was a final proper send off for Geralt to remove him from the lead role, it was only ever going to be either Ciri or an entirely new character. I also do not understand why after repeatedly having claims by these grifters easily debunked, why people cannot see that they're being used as a doormat to spread their nonsense and grift.



Dulfite said:

Maybe they got tired of working at a company that insults its fans?

Their franchise/lore designer recently called Cyberpunk 2077 players as "fascists, unempathetic, depraved, poisonous, and predatory wankers."

Who wants to work for a company that feels that way about gamers?

"Recently" is 4 years ago? 1 day before Cyberpunk's release and before he was even an employee of CDPR?

And no, he didn't insult all fans of Cyberpunk, actually read his article rather than only the title of a Substack post.

I wonder if they realize that by sending critics who have notified the world of potentially life-threatening sequences in the game videos that could triggers seizures in real life, that their actions are deplorable beyond human comprehension. I wonder if they realize that by harassing trans writers who have rightfully and justifiably critiqued Cyberpunk 2077’s haphazard and sometimes harmful representation of trans people, that they themselves are the exact kind of people that cyberpunk is designed to destroy: fascistic, unempathetic, and depraved proponents of a regime designed to foster irreversible and indiscriminate misery in technophilic dystopia.

The People Who Call Cyberpunk 2077 Perfect Are The People That Cyberpunk Warns Us Against

Wow. Turns out he was not insulting me, a Cyberpunk 2077 player, but the people who were being dickheads and rightfully pointing out that those people are the ones that worlds like Cyberpunk's are also criticising. This was also after Cyberpunk's reviews where gamers were losing their shit at the low scores and attacking journalists for criticism, then it turned out, Cyberpunk was a broken piece of shit, Lol. It was ridiculous to label Cyberpunk as perfect and then attack journalists for criticising the game when it ended up in the state it did.



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Dulfite said:

Maybe they got tired of working at a company that insults its fans?

Their franchise/lore designer recently called Cyberpunk 2077 players as "fascists, unempathetic, depraved, poisonous, and predatory wankers."

Who wants to work for a company that feels that way about gamers?

😞 I hope this guy doesn't have a big role. 



Darc Requiem said:

@Chazore Laura is awesome. She gets it. The industry needs more people like her in decision making roles. 

She's got quite the following from what I've seen, and I do enjoy listening to her takes on management. I'm hoping more give her their ears and learn to be more like her in the games industry.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

the-pi-guy said:
Darc Requiem said:

The people that work for the developer/publisher that attack their consumer base? That's the not question to ask. The question is why aren't the immediately fired. You can't attack your customer base, no matter what you think of them. As a business, it's financial suicide. It shoud be business 101. Apparently these developers skipped that class. There is zero to be gained from it and a lot to lose. Companies not getting rid of these people tells the consumer they agree with the sentiment. These selfish blowhards tank games that dozens if not hundreds of other people have worked on. They show zero consideration for the company more importantly their fellow developers. 

Yes, the person saying "gamers were a mistake" is the selfish blowhard, and not the gamers sending death threats. 

I see that you are the one these people that don't address what a person says and infers what you believe they think. This is the only time I'll address this. If you aren't mature enough to have a real discussion don't bother reply to my posts.



Darc Requiem said:

I see that you are the one these people that don't address what a person says and infers what you believe they think. This is the only time I'll address this. If you aren't mature enough to have a real discussion don't bother reply to my posts.

I didn't say anything about what you think.

I'm pointing out that JRPGfan's post is missing context.

JRPGfan said:

Thats right up there with the one that was happy to make a game that offended elon musk, and said that was their goal with the game.
(we made this game to be purposefully offensive to a market of gamers)

Theres been woke devs saying "gamers are a mistake", and stuff like "If I met anyone like them, I would punch them" ect ect ect.

The woke side can do some serious PR nightmare on social media.
And for what? to "own the chuds" ? or whatever for brownie points from people in their own echo chamber/bubble ?
Meanwhile stuff like that can hurt game sales.

Why didn't the developer who said "gamers are a mistake" get fired? Because this was a direct emotional response to an actress getting death threats.

A lot of the comments where "woke developers said something mean about gamers" are out of context, or in some cases are just silly hyperbole and obviously don't mean what people are claiming they mean. 

Even when they are serious, it's in direct response to something that is far more serious. A lot of people have gotten harassed and have gotten death threats. 

"They show zero consideration for the company more importantly their fellow developers"

It is the opposite, they are standing up for their fellow devs, against hateful people.



LegitHyperbole said:
Dulfite said:

Maybe they got tired of working at a company that insults its fans?

Their franchise/lore designer recently called Cyberpunk 2077 players as "fascists, unempathetic, depraved, poisonous, and predatory wankers."

Who wants to work for a company that feels that way about gamers?

😞 I hope this guy doesn't have a big role. 

Literally ignored all the replies bringing up the facts to that guy and replied only to thas guy's factually wrong post. Classic. This thread was created to spread the same kind of agenda that the tweet in the op is trying to spread, you knew very well the kind of message you wanted to pass, and ignoring the facts that other people are bringing just takes away any doubt about that.