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JRPGfan 2 days ago
SuperJortendo said:

Since you can play PS5 games on a PS portal that means it's a handheld

^ needs a "this is a xbox" with a smartphone in picture.

Microsoft and xbox are right there with your logic SuperJortendo.
The answear is Yes :p


This is a xbox

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LegitHyperbole 2 days ago

I don't think the Switch is a home console. After zi bought it I soon realised it's just a handheld that you connect to the TV. Gave mine away as a present and bout a lite cause it's clearly better as a handheld. Most of the the software hort of a few like Asteal chain says the same thing, this is a game designed with mobility in mind. Designed for short bursts like MS peacewalker was it's just more subtle with the Switch.



Mr.GameCrazy 2 days ago

To answer your thread question, no. The PSP was designed to be a handheld console. Being able to connect it to the TV with an addon cable doesn't change that fact. 

The Switch and Switch OLED on the other hand are designed to work as both a home and handheld console. Unlike the PSP, the Switch has 2 power profiles. When in docked mode, they use their full power to run games on TV, but when they're in portable mode, they use a lower power profile. The PSP can't do that.



V-r0cK 2 days ago
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
V-r0cK said:

I used my PSP as a home console for quite a bit when I was using the PSP Go docked and using a Dualshock 3 controller.

.....But it was never actually intended or marketed to be one, so I would say that it isn't. It was simply a handheld device that had an option to connect to TV but wasn't part of Sony's focus.

Was the Switch the first to be a handheld gaming device that could hook up to the TV to be used like a home console? No. But they are the first to market it as handheld and home console, and focused their entire generation based off that feature.

So, Sony went to all the trouble investing money into a feature that allowed you to hook up your PSP to the TV (with a DS3 controller no less), but you feel it's invalid compared to the switch because you feel it wasn't marketed well enough or was successful enough. The marketing/success is irrelevant. Sony invested money into a feature to be used by people. We can't invalidate that just because we feel the marketing wasn't right or it's success doesn't warrant mentioning it. 

All Sony did really was create wires to hook up to TV (and optional dock) just like every mobile/portable device would have. DS3 was already created for PS3 so with the PSP already having bluetooth in mind, it was a simple matter of connecting them together. Sony hardly invested much at all into the PSP to connect to TV that wasn't already established because it wasn't a feature they were focusing on. It was called "PS Portable" because that was the feature they were focusing on.

Are you also going to say Laptops are also home consoles? For a long time laptops had, and still has, the capabilities of connecting to TV too.  Hook that up, load up Steam or emulators with a controller and it does just the same.



Hardstuck-Platinum 2 days ago
V-r0cK said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

So, Sony went to all the trouble investing money into a feature that allowed you to hook up your PSP to the TV (with a DS3 controller no less), but you feel it's invalid compared to the switch because you feel it wasn't marketed well enough or was successful enough. The marketing/success is irrelevant. Sony invested money into a feature to be used by people. We can't invalidate that just because we feel the marketing wasn't right or it's success doesn't warrant mentioning it. 

All Sony did really was create wires to hook up to TV (and optional dock) just like every mobile/portable device would have. DS3 was already created for PS3 so with the PSP already having bluetooth in mind, it was a simple matter of connecting them together. Sony hardly invested much at all into the PSP to connect to TV that wasn't already established because it wasn't a feature they were focusing on. It was called "PS Portable" because that was the feature they were focusing on.

Are you also going to say Laptops are also home consoles? For a long time laptops had, and still has, the capabilities of connecting to TV too.  Hook that up, load up Steam or emulators with a controller and it does just the same.

No of course I wouldn't. It's simple, anything with a battery and a screen is a portable console/device and anything that doesn't have battery or screen is a home console/device. To the people on here though, the switch can be considered a home console because it connects to a TV and plays games. Well by that logic, phones are consoles, laptops are consoles and the PSP was a console. 

Also, the PSP 1.0 didn't have the feature. Sony DID invest in the feature for the later models, and I'm sure if they invested in it, they intended for it to be used. 



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Leynos 2 days ago

PSP did not display games in a good screen ratio. Also SEGA Nomad did the Switch in 1995. It was a portable SEGA Genesis that could connect to the TV and like Switch displayed games in their proper screen size and resolution. PSP did not and not all PSP models supported it.



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IcaroRibeiro 2 days ago
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
V-r0cK said:

All Sony did really was create wires to hook up to TV (and optional dock) just like every mobile/portable device would have. DS3 was already created for PS3 so with the PSP already having bluetooth in mind, it was a simple matter of connecting them together. Sony hardly invested much at all into the PSP to connect to TV that wasn't already established because it wasn't a feature they were focusing on. It was called "PS Portable" because that was the feature they were focusing on.

Are you also going to say Laptops are also home consoles? For a long time laptops had, and still has, the capabilities of connecting to TV too.  Hook that up, load up Steam or emulators with a controller and it does just the same.

No of course I wouldn't. It's simple, anything with a battery and a screen is a portable console/device and anything that doesn't have battery or screen is a home console/device. To the people on here though, the switch can be considered a home console because it connects to a TV and plays games. Well by that logic, phones are consoles, laptops are consoles and the PSP was a console. 

Also, the PSP 1.0 didn't have the feature. Sony DID invest in the feature for the later models, and I'm sure if they invested in it, they intended for it to be used. 

You're using something that was invented after home consoles to define what a home console is. Home consoles were created in 70s, and handhelds only in the 80s. You can't define home consoles as "a dedicated machine that lacks screen and battery" because "dedicated machines with screen and batery" are posterior to "dedicated machine without screen and battery"

If the machine can be played stationary position with a controller and connected to a TV it's a home console

For phones and laptops the key difference is they are not DEDICATED devices to gaming. It goes without saying that as a computer scientist POV consoles and smartphones themselves are specialization of computers, with very few customization, closed/dedicated operation systems and resource allocation focused primarly on gaming, unlike Smartphones and Laptops 



Shikamo 1 day ago

In the end of the day Wii U in his prime era was the best one. In the prime era we had a Nintendo Reddit called Miiverse that I wasted too many time in there... i miss Miiverse so much



     


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SuperJortendo 1 day ago
Hardstuck-Platinum said:
V-r0cK said:

All Sony did really was create wires to hook up to TV (and optional dock) just like every mobile/portable device would have. DS3 was already created for PS3 so with the PSP already having bluetooth in mind, it was a simple matter of connecting them together. Sony hardly invested much at all into the PSP to connect to TV that wasn't already established because it wasn't a feature they were focusing on. It was called "PS Portable" because that was the feature they were focusing on.

Are you also going to say Laptops are also home consoles? For a long time laptops had, and still has, the capabilities of connecting to TV too.  Hook that up, load up Steam or emulators with a controller and it does just the same.

No of course I wouldn't. It's simple, anything with a battery and a screen is a portable console/device and anything that doesn't have battery or screen is a home console/device. To the people on here though, the switch can be considered a home console because it connects to a TV and plays games. Well by that logic, phones are consoles, laptops are consoles and the PSP was a console. 

Also, the PSP 1.0 didn't have the feature. Sony DID invest in the feature for the later models, and I'm sure if they invested in it, they intended for it to be used. 

It's ok bud, the PS2 might not be the highest selling console in a few years, but you'll always have your opinions and the memories when it was on top. Someday you'll tell your great grandkids about the glory days before that dang handheld switch took the crown



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RedKingXIII 1 day ago

This debate is pointless and we absolutely can compare Switch and PS2 sales.

If the Switch surpass the 162m mark it's going to be the best selling console ever and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that.

And that is all this is about, no? The Switch becoming the best selling console ever with no distinctions between handhelds or home consoles.

I swear, this is the first time I've seen anyone making this distinction, but seeing who made this thread... yeah. It all makes sense lol.

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